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Brad, Just for the record, I never told Pete you were a nice guy. Rummy In a message dated 3/10/2008 10:34:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, petelauritzen at earthlink.net writes: No worries. I was actually kidding. I got a thick skin and I heard you are a relatively nice guy. Brad Haslett-2 wrote:See the original archive post
> > Pete, > > A bit testy are we? My observation was directed at Rob's comment about W > having "avoided the Vietnam War" not yours. Relax, if you want some > lessons > on how to have a real cat fight, search the archives for some of the > debates > between Bill Effros and myself. Bill is a real pro and doesn't think every > comment is directed at him personally. A lot of folks don't like being > strapped to an "F-thing" and who can blame them. The death rate in that > contraption was higher than serving in Vietnam, and their mission was to > patrol the southern border against Cuban based Soviet aircraft. The F-102 > also served in Vietnam with several National Guard pilot losses. Exactly > what did Bill Clinton do during Vietnam? As to your agenda? Frankly my > dear......... > > Brad > > On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 8:11 AM, petelargo <petelauritzen at earthlink.net> > wrote: > >> >> Don't you think it is just a little presumptuous and dismissive to >> declare >> what you think my "agenda" is when you don't know one thing about me? And >> as >> regards your imagery of being strapped to your 'F-thing' while at full >> thrust, you will have to find someone else as I don't swing that way. >> (not >> that there is anything wrong with that). >> >> >> Brad Haslett-2 wrote: >> > >> > Herb, >> > >> > You're wasting your time. These rants are from people with a whole >> > different agenda. But just for shits and grins, I'd like to strap >> their >> > ass >> > to an F-102 for one ride and see if they still want to run their mouth >> > about >> > "avoiding Vietnam" again. >> > >> > Brad >> > >> > On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Mymymy, aren't we glad you don't write the history books. Soooo much >> >> spin, garbage, and nonsense, one hardly knows where to begin. >> >> >> >> >> >> Rob Lowe wrote: >> >> > Oh, I don't know. It's an interesting question, but I agree it has >> >> nothing >> >> > to do with discussing the current candidates and should be debating >> on >> >> it's >> >> > own merits. Pete, which is worse, a catastrophe or a disaster? I >> am >> >> > undecided how W's administration will be remembered too, between >> those >> >> two >> >> > choices that is. >> >> > >> >> > In some ways, you got to feel sorry for W. He grew up in the shadow >> of >> >> his >> >> > very famous and successful father. Although I didn't care much for >> >> George >> >> > H.W., I have to admire him for his accomplishments and his success. >> >> H.W >> >> . >> >> > was a successful collage baseball player, war hero, business man, a >> >> pretty >> >> > good politician, and put together a coalition to drive the Iraqis >> out >> >> of >> >> > Kuwait. W. on the other hand was a C student, avoided the Vietnam >> War, >> >> > failed in business until his daddy's rich friends bought his >> businesses >> >> at >> >> > inflated prices, choose partisanship over accomplishments in >> politics >> >> > (although I have to argue Cheney is the force behind most of that), >> and >> >> got >> >> > into two wars that he can't win. And bin Laden is still on the >> loose. >> >> > >> >> > W.'s pretty much shot Jeb's chance at the White House, and it wasn't >> >> > supposed to be that way. Jeb is the favorite son and was being >> groomed >> >> for >> >> > the White House. But W, looking for daddy's approval, decided to >> run >> >> for >> >> > the White House and won. Well, he didn't win it, the Supreme Court >> >> gave >> >> it >> >> > to him. >> >> > >> >> > Yes, history will be the judge of W's legacy. But this is the same >> guy >> >> > trying to spin his own legacy. This is the guy who has compared >> >> himself >> >> to >> >> > both George Washington and Abraham Lincoln. You sure don't see >> anyone >> >> else >> >> > comparing W. to Washington or Lincoln, not even his most ardent >> >> supporters. >> >> > >> >> > So, catastrophe or disaster? Worse president in American history? >> >> Only >> >> > time will tell. - rob >> >> > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> >> > From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com> >> >> > To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> >> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:43 AM >> >> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Say What, Barack? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Huh???? How is discussing whether "the bush presidency will be >> >> evtually >> >> >> considered a catastrophe or a disaster" more a substantiative >> >> political >> >> >> critique than discussing the current candidates? The Bush >> presidency >> >> is >> >> >> just about over, and virtually nothing can be done to change his >> >> course. >> >> >> History has shown that the great presidencies were typically not >> >> >> recognized as such until LONG after they're over. In reality, that >> >> >> discussion would be virtually empty of substance were it to be held >> >> now. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> For a more substantiative political critique I suggest the >> discussion >> >> of >> >> >>> whether the bush presidency will be eventually considered a >> >> catastrophe >> >> >>> >> >> > or a >> >> > >> >> >>> disaster. I am undecided, but willing to hear arguments on both >> >> sides. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Pete Hussein Lauritzen >> >> >>> Key Largo >> >> >>> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > __________________________________________________ >> >> > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Herb Parsons >> >> S/V O'Jure - O'Day 25 >> >> S/V Reve de Pappa - Coronado 35 >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> >> Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> >> >> > __________________________________________________ >> > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> > >> > >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/Say-What%2C-Barack--tp15875475p15925880.html >> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list >> > __________________________________________________ > Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Say-What%2C-Barack--tp15875475p15950783.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __________________________________________________ Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? www.rhodes22.org/list **************It's Tax Time! 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