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2008-05-03; 14:03:49 EDT
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Elle, Lighten up girl. Sounds to me like you could use a couple of my rum and cokes. Besides, it's Saturday and everybody knows that means more free time for drinking and sailing. Rummy In a message dated 5/3/2008 11:49:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, watermusic38 at yahoo.com writes: Herb,See the original archive post
>I pretty regularly see all sort of rudeness on here, and of late, it seems t hat those of a >certain political persuasion are the ones that are asked to turn peacemakers. Yes, that appears to be true....but someone has to be first to stop....and there's a lot to be said for the reasoned individual who sees the need to put an end to the discussion. It's hard....everyone wants to have the last word...(don't I know...;^) elle Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote: I do hope you'll allow me to respectfully disagree with your vision/view. I pretty regularly see all sort of rudeness on here, and of late, it seems that those of a certain political persuasion are the ones that are asked to turn peacemakers. In this case, the discussion never hit the "information" point, and while I agree that I won't likely change anyone's mind about the main topic (c'mon, few, if any, of these discussions ever do that), I would like to think that there might be at least one or two folks out there that read the discussions and think "Maybe calling ANYONE I don't know a 'dumb son of a bitch" is a bit over the line". elle wrote: > Herb, > > What I meant is that the discussion is past the 'information' point. You are not changing anyone's mind & they are not going to change yours. > > So any more discussion is a waste of time since y'all will just continue to argue.. > > I enjoy these discussions (usually) because of the divergent points of view and the (usually) intelligent discourse. But this discussion is past that point. > > I don't know you, have never seen you, but what I see in my mind is you holding one of the other Rhodies who disagrees with you up against a wall with your arm against his throat. I don't believe this is a true depiction of you but that is the image this discussion has presented. > > Perhaps we forget to remember that we are Rhodies-compatriots first; these discussions just fill in the blanks until we can all get back on the water. > > 'Pace,'...please. > > elle > > > > > > Herb Parsons wrote: > You know elle, I'm convinced that one of the current ills of society are > because no one has the guts to say something that's "against the > majority". I'd say that this list is pretty much left-leaning. > > Rummy calls the president "dumb", and a "son of a bitch", and that's OK. > > I call him on it, and I should "give it a rest" > > Ed is regularly called all sorts of rude names on here, and that's cool > (because so many think he's rude) > > I see a rude statement about the President, and give back what he's > giving, and I'm chastised. > > A certain unnamed user cries foul for being accused of promoting > socialist programs, when he talks about supporting socialist programs, > and we are asked to not do that anymore, since he obviously finds it > offensive (which, btw, I've done to this point), > > But then that same user regularly gets on her and makes snide comments > about me, and often to me, and it's ignored. > > Frankly, I think a bunch of you guys are hypocrites. But that's OK, it > still makes for interesting reading. > > I'm anxious to see if/when one of the lefties on say "Hey, that's a > little over the top" when someone accuses a Harvard MBA and two term > president of being a "dumb son of a bitch". > > When I DON'T see that happen, I'm going to guess it's OK to determine > that it probably came from some ignorant hick, especially when it goes > largely unsubstantiated beyond "becuase I said so". > > > elle wrote: > >> Do ya think ya can give it a rest? >> >> 'Nytol...' >> >> elle >> --- Herb Parsons wrote: >> >> >> >>> I'm sure that the quantity has ensured that. Betcha >>> that the President >>> could say the same. >>> >>> But you didn't answer either question, you simply >>> side-stepped them. >>> >>> Would insulting your mother break those rules that >>> you talk about? >>> Where does one draw the line? >>> If I say there's no doubt in my mind that President >>> Bush, who was smart >>> enough to get a Masters from Harvard, is smarter >>> than you - HAVE I >>> insulted you, and does that break protocol? >>> >>> I suspect it's much easier to talk about the "dumb" >>> "son of a bitch" >>> than it is to actually show how you're better. >>> >>> R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Herb, >>>> I've been insulted by better people than you. Keep >>>> >>>> >>> trying as you will, this >>> >>> >>>> president is a joke. >>>> >>>> Rummy >>>> >>>> >>>> In a message dated 5/2/2008 10:06:25 P.M. Eastern >>>> >>>> >>> Daylight Time, >>> >>> >>>> hparsons at parsonsys.com writes: >>>> >>>> As I mentioned to another member, does that mean >>>> >>>> >>> insulting your mother >>> >>> >>>> is OK as well? Where do you draw the line Rummy? >>>> >>>> >>> And, if I say there's >>> >>> >>>> no doubt in my mind that that President George W >>>> >>>> >>> Bush, who was "smart >>> >>> >>>> enough" to get a Masters in Business >>>> >>>> >>> Administration from Harvard >>> >>> >>>> Business school, is undoubtedly smarter than you, >>>> >>>> >>> does that mean I've >>> >>> >>>> broken protocol by insulting you? >>>> >>>> Oh well, too bad. >>>> >>>> >>>> R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Herb, >>>>> The last time I checked, Bush was not a member of >>>>> >>>>> >>> this list, so calling >>> >>> >>>>> >>>> him >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> a son of a bitch is acceptable. >>>>> >>>>> Rummy >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In a message dated 5/2/2008 4:15:44 P.M. Eastern >>>>> >>>>> >>> Daylight Time, >>> >>> >>>>> hparsons at parsonsys.com writes: >>>>> >>>>> OK folks.Where the admonitions about "personal >>>>> >>>>> >>> attacks." Some idiot gets >>> >>> >>>>> on here and calls the President of the Nation a >>>>> >>>>> >>> "son of a bitch", and >>> >>> >>>>> that's OK. However, calling Robert a loser >>>>> >>>>> >>> because of his pathetic >>> >>> >>>>> Bush-hating nonsense is somehow bad bad stuff. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Rob, >>>>>> >>>>>> Not true. Many of us have questioned his >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> military service, but have >>> >>> >>>>>> >>>> never >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> been given the straight answers. It seems that >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> privileged children live >>> >>> >>>>>> privileged lives, even in the military. Since >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> it's already Friday and I >>> >>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> have a ton >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> of yard wok to do this weekend and won't be >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> actively on the list, I will >>> >>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> leave >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> with this parting comment. Our current >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> president is the dumbest son of a >>> >>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>> bitch that's ever taken the oath of office. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> History will back me up on >>> >>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> this. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Rummy >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> In a message dated 5/2/2008 2:44:43 P.M. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> Eastern Daylight Time, >>> >>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> rlowe at vt.edu >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> writes: >>>>>> >>>>>> Nobody questioned his service, Herb. >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Herb Parsons" >>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 11:34 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] This day in >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> history >>> >>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> And, I'll add, bitch all you want to about >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> his politics. When you >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>>> insult >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> his service, you're being a jerk. THAT was >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> what was pathetic. >>> >>> >>>>>>> Brad Haslett wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rob, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Herb's a big boy and can defend himself, so >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> I'll let him. I too >>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>>> feel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> his >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> frustrations at times though. The carrier >>>>>>>> >>> landing was a celebration >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> for >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> men and women who had been at sea for a good >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> long while in support of >>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Iraqi liberation. They were honored to have >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> been visited by their >>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> Commander >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> in Chief and it showed on their faces. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> President Bush didn't >>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> immediately >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> rush for the Admiral's quarters, he spent a >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> lot of time with the >>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> 'grunts' >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> taking photos, hugging them, etc. It was >>>>>>>> >>> obvious they loved having >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> him >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> aboard and watching it live made me proud to >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> be an American. Was it >>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>>> a >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> political event as well? Everything a >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> politician does is a political >>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> event. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Today's newspaper is the first draft of >>>>>>>> >>> history and often wrong in >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>>> the >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> reporting and analysis. Go read a newspaper >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> from 1948 to 1952 and >>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>>> see >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> how >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> popular Truman was at the time. Some >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> people are so jaded by their >>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>>> BDS >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> (Bush >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Derangement Syndrome) that they can't see >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> anything positive in >>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>>> anything. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> You >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> are probably a classic case. Bush's term >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> is almost over and it might >>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> be >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> time for everyone to move on to tomorrow's >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> problems. >>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Let me say this - when I think critics are >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> taking delight in the >>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> difficulty >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> and losses our military is encountering >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> because it suits their >>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> political >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> slant, it pisses me off to no end. Frankly, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> I don't think we should >>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>>> have >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> engaged in 2/3rds of the deployments we did >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> under Clinton, and I >>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>>> didn't >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> and >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> still don't like the Clintons. That said, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> I want to see any >>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>>> engagement >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> where we put our troops in harm's way to go >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> well regardless of how I >>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> may >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>> personally feel about the commander. My >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> guess is, Herb gets upset >>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>>> for >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> the >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> same reasons I do. Bitch about Bush is you >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> want, it's a free >>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>>> country. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> The >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> men and women on that boat that day risked >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>> their lives so you can do >>> >>> >>>>>>>> >>>> so. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>> Brad >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>> >>>>>>> Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> www.rhodes22.org/list >>> >>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>> >>>>>> Use Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org, Help? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> www.rhodes22.org/list >>> >>> >>>>>> >>>>>> **************Wondering what's for Dinner >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> Tonight? 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