I just had another thought. The time that I laid Rum Runner over on her  side 
while under sail, water did come into the cabin over the deck. With the pop  
top in the lower position, it could allow water to enter the cabin. With 80 
mph  winds, it could also just blow in. The pop top isn't sealed tight to the  
deck.
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 7/1/2008 11:44:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
R22RumRunner at aol.com writes:

Andrew,
Speaking from first hand experience, I can assure you that  when laid over,  
the sink drain is indeed in the water. I do not know  if it would allow water 
 
into the cabin because it would depend on  the height of the sink at that 
angle. 
My guess would be that the water  came in from the hull/deck joint. It's an 
easy  thing to fix. Once  again, it's been covered many times on this list, 
but 
if you  can't  find anything in the archives, I will be glad to repeat the 
instructions  I  got from Sir Stanley.
Another source of water could be your water  tank. It has an air valve that  
could let water out when laid over.  Do you know if the water in the bilge 
was  
salt water or fresh  water?????

Rummy


In a message dated 7/1/2008 11:00:47 A.M.  Eastern Daylight Time,  
engineerpac at gmail.com  writes:

Rob

Backflow through the sink is possible as it is open,  but the  increased
flotation when the flare is in the water would  probably still  keep the drain
at some height above the   water.

Andrew

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Lowe,  Rob  <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:

> Andrew,
> If it's the  starboard  side and it was a knock down situation, how about
>  backflow through the  sink drain?  -  rob
>
>
>
> -----Original  Message-----
>  From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>   [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of andrew   collins
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 4:51 PM
> To: The Rhodes  22  Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Water Under V Berth?  Water in  side &
> forwardbilges; Reply to Andrew, Michael C  et  al...
>
> MJM and Ed
>
> The water is  behaving as  Michael described. The bilge is now dry with
>  very
> little water  seeping in from the adjacent bilge  compartments, so
> happiness
>  abounds. Three or four 1/4"  holes thru the partitions from the bilge  to
> the
> forward  and port compartments will speed up drtainage  if it happens
>  again.
>
> The boat is a 1986 recycled in  2006. Leakage has  historically been wind
> driven rain into the  starboard hatch and  under the pop top, but this
> last
> one only  when on the  trailer. My guess is that the wind builds up a
>  little
>  wavelet at the pop top and manages to push it over the lip. The   amount
> is
> not worth worrying about.
> All thru  hull  fittings are closed and connections are dry. New hoses
>  were
>  fitted this year.
> The source of water from the  knock down: now  wouldn't I like to know!
> From
> drip marks  and debris trails on  the interior of the hull under the
>  galley
> counter, I reckon it  was on its starboard side (also the  port fender was
> in
> the  cockpit). So the hull deck joint  is the prime suspect, and this will
>  get
> inspected in the  fall. No water seemed to come in through  ports,
> hatches,  or
> companionway, the carpet was dry ... so the  forensic effort  CSI Grass
> Island is ended.
>
> I will  search the  archives for the deck-hull connection info and/or
>   caulking
> procedure.
>
> Thanks for the   advice.
>
> Andrew
> s/v   Carmen
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 7:43 AM,  Tootle  <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
>
> >
>  >
>  > Andrew & Michael C:
> >
> >  Andrew, I do not  remember where you are or what year your boat is.   A
> >  little
> > more information would be  helpful.  Regardless, you  need to
> immediately
> >  determine the source of the  water.
> >
> > Possible  sources include the vent that  Michael C keeps asking about.
>  Or,
> > is
> > it your  fresh water tank or hoses and  connections to it?  A search of
>  the
> > archives  might reveal where another boat needed a new tank or  hoses
>  (for
> > sure).  This issue needs to be addressed  before  you sustain water
> damage.
> >
> > Michael C -   the shelf is where it was... yes, it can catch stray drops
>  of
>  > water.  The idea was not mine, so there are other  Nicro vents  out
> there on
> > Rhodes 22's.  What  they did with their  trays is a question waiting for
> an
>  > answer.
>  >
> > About the list answering  questions lately, there are reasons  for the
> > failure
>  > of the list to appropriately and  quickly respond to  questions.  This
> is
> > prime  vacation time.   There are several members of the forum on
>  vacation
> >  this week and others getting ready to go next  week.
> >
>  > Then there are the archives and newbies need  to use them.   Older
> members
> > have answered the same  questions many  times.  I joined this motley
> crew in
> >  the last  century.  At a point some just get tired of typing the  same
>  words
> > and answers, so use the archives to do simple   research.  If you do not
> know
> > how,  ask.
>  >
> > Then another answer is political.   This forum has a  predominance of
> social
> > democrats  and beltway bureaucrats  who talk a good deed but stumble on
> >  routine blue collar  help.  The exception is the signee who claims  to
> be an
>  > enlightened capitalist.  The help  that this list has given  is
> gratuitous.
> >  Unfortunately many recipients' of the  help, no longer nor maybe  never
> have,
> > feel any obligation  to continue the  gift.
> >
> > Furthermore, there are those  who ascribe  to keeping the list email
> volume
> > low.   The  failure to do so has irritated them that they no longer
> >   subscribe.
> > While this is a loss, it is really a demonstration  of  a short fuse or
> the
> > above stated failure to  continue the  gift.
> >
> > Andrew, I encourage you to  repost your  questions and research the
> archives.
> >  Again, find the  source of the water problem.
> >
> >  Ed K
> >  Greenville, SC, USA
> >
> >  --
> > View this  message in context:
> >   http://www.nabble.com/Water-Under-V-Berth--tp18164488p18179820.html
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>   >
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