Brad,
Why is it that the ultra conservative far right wing fanatics of the
Republican party find it necessary to call people names and place labels on them? I
would never stoop so low as to call a Republican a zealot or fanatic or
religious nut.
Rummy
In a message dated 9/9/2008 9:14:25 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
hparsons at parsonsys.com writes:
Brad,
I think one of the most fun things about this has been watching the
"liberal left" revealing their true nature - sexist religious bigots.
Brad Haslett wrote:
> Pete,
>> I'm sure glad you're not trying to pin that label on Palin. The "book
> banning" story has been debunked over, and over, and over. I'll send
> you some links this afternoon after my "teeth cleaning" if you insist
> on this silliness. Oh yeah, the WaPo has an article out about Palin's
> expense reports. These people are desperate for anything. I'll be
> happy to de-bunk that one for you this afternoon as well, and oh what
> fun it is to make the Wash. Two things we have learned this election
> cycle, (1) the MSM is totally in the tank for "The One", and (2) they
> are STUPID!
>> Attached is an e-mail from an Alaskan about Palin's record as Guv and
> her social conservative views.
>> Brad
>> -------------------------
>> Nate:
>> As someone who lives in Wasilla, Alaska, who knows Sarah's family, and
> has watched her rise in politics over the last 10 years, I would
> concede that she probably does not have the knowledge of international
> markets as someone with a Ph.D. in finance. That being said, though, I
> would still want her in office as opposed to others for several
> reasons.
>> First, she has understood, more than most politicians, that government
> does not produce. It only erect barriers to economic production. That
> right there puts her ahead of many persons who may have more formal
> education on the matter.
>> Second, her actions as governor demonstrate a commitment, at least as
> much as a Republican can be committed to such an ideal, to less
> government regulation of markets. Her first year in office, she used a
> line item veto to excise roughly 15% of the government budget, even in
> the Mat-Su Valley, because of her philosophical disagreements with
> government spending in that area. She cut property taxes while mayor
> and otherwise reduced regulatory and financial burdens. While
> governor, she fought to get rid of the certificate of need (CON)
> requirement for health care providers. She was unsuccessful, but she
> did more than a lot of other politicians.
>> In that light, I would trust her gut reaction more than I would
> someone such as Biden or Obama, who seem to believe that government
> can play a positive role in the economy.
>> To respond to Orin's post, then, about Palin, there are definitely
> some matters of Palin's politics I do not care for. Before going into
> that so much, I would point to a good post for separating rumor from
> fact is here:
>>>> Thus, rumors about book banning, etc., do not concern me so much
> because they are revealed to be incorrect or hoaxes.
>> I am pro-choice and, while Palin has been decidedly conservative on
> that point, she has not governed as a socially conservative governor.
> Our Supreme Court held that, since marriage is defined as including
> only different-sex couples, the equal protection clause of the state
> constitution mandated providing employer benefits to same-sex couples
> of state employees. Palin publicly disagreed with the ruling but went
> on to do - nothing. She did not seek to stack the court. She did not
> seek to appoint different judges, amend the constitution or other
> matters. Rather, she ordered the department of law to implement the
> decision. That has been her modus operandi so far - follow the rules
> even if she disagrees with them. Remember that Alaska's state
> constitutional right to abortion as a part of the right of privacy
> precedes Roe v. Wade. Yet Palin has not championed to overturn that or
> impose a rigid pro-life perspective but rather left matters pretty
> much alone.
>> For that reason, I am not as concerned with her social conservatism.
> And while an economics professor would know more about the global
> economy, her instincts to get government out of the way will solve far
> more problems than most other politicians. So, while I cannot vouch
> for her knowledge of the economy, I can vouch for what she has
> actually done. And based on that, I can say that as a libertarian
> (actually much closer to an anarchist in the Murray Rothbard/Randy
> Barnett tradition), I would rather Palin get into office than any of
> the other candidates with a reasonable chance of winning.
> 9.9.2008 1:55am
>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 7:39 AM, petelargo <petelauritzen at earthlink.net>
wrote:
>>> an individual who is driven by their religious Belief to impose their
Belief
>> on others in order to "save you" for what they believe is your own good by
>> using their civic power and position to support and pass laws requiring
your
>> compliance with their Beliefs, hence making societal criminals out of
people
>> should they not share these particular Beliefs. Always combined with an
>> inherent feeling of righteous seniority and intolerance of other beliefs,
>> based on the belief that their Belief is superior to all other beliefs.
>>>> examples: 1) supporting and imposing laws that state what you can and
>> cannot do with or put in your own body as an adult based on their specific
>> religion 2) supporting restrictions and public bans of literature, books,
>> movies, and art that may not support their religion 3) attempts to create
>> laws that make their religion the 'official state' religion 4) imposing
>> their religion as the 'truth' that must be taught in public forums over
>> empirical contrary scientific evidence 5) wanting to change the
Constitution
>> of the United States in order to better reflect their specific religion 6)
>> supporting deconstructing boundaries between church and state in order to
>> more effectively implement the above
>>>>>> --
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