Elle,
Your messages are all coming through in double. Try running your anti-virus  
software.
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 10/28/2008 11:25:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
watermusic38 at yahoo.com writes:

Ben,

I'll bet you're really glad he brought that  up....

elle

We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can  adjust our sails.

1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06   "WaterMusic"   (Lady in Red)


--- On Tue, 10/28/08, Ben  Cittadino <bcittadino at dcs-law.com> wrote:

> From: Ben  Cittadino <bcittadino at dcs-law.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]  Herb's sailing trip
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Date:  Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 8:21 PM
> Steve,
> 
> I have  mentioned that part of my excitment in acquiring a
> Rhodes 22  this
> year came from the fact that I served aboard a Philip
>  Rhodes designed
> oceangoing minesweeper; a naval combatant vessel  designed
> (and built) in the
> early 1950's when we needed  wooden-hulled ships to
> avoid destruction
> (theoretically) from  magnetic mines. She was 171' long,
> drew about 12' of
> water,  had 4 500hp aluminum Packard diesel engines for main
> propulsion,  twin
> variable pitch props, and could do about 16 kts wide  open.
> She wasn't bad
> looking with a "tuna clipper type" bow  and a low
> counter from which we could
> stream minesweeping gear  off the stern.  Mine was the USS
> EXPLOIT (MSO 440)
> and I  was the engineering officer (the logical choice since
> I had been  a
> political science major and knew nothing about diesels,
>  electricity,
> machinery, or engineering). 
> 
> Anyway, I  had never gotten seasick until some genius
> decided we should  help
> land a battalion of marines at Reid State Park in Maine  in
> JANUARY of 1972.
> Operation "Snowy Beach".   I  have never been so
> cold. We had an open bridge
> (no heat) and  the weather was miserable. Our little
> division of 4 MSO's was
>  ordered to a course that put us right in the trough of the
> seas. It  was just
> like "The Caine Mutiny". We were taking the most
>  frightening rolls in those
> seas (I swear to this day I read the  clinometer as taking a
> 52 degree roll). 
> I thought I was  pretty salty but I was terrified.
> 
> I got off watch and went  below to try to wedge myself into
> a bunk, but had
> to pass  through the crew's mess, where afew saltier
> Chiefs were chowing  down
> on big plates of "Chef Boy ar Dee" canned
> ravioli. I lost  my lunch, dinner
> and breakfast in one great barf. And the worst part  is,
> once you're sick you
> stay sick. It was the worst three  days of my life. I
> thought I was going to
> die.
>  
> Thanks for evoking that memory. I haven't thought about
> my  seasickness
> adventure in a long time.
> 
> Best,
>  
> Ben C.
> 
> Steven Alm wrote:
> > 
> >  Nice story, Herb.  Thanks for writing it up.  I can
> tell you  something
> > about
> > sea sickness.  I had it once  but oddly it happened in
> much calmer seas
> > than
>  > other rides I've been on so it might have been
> something I  ate.   It was
> > absolutely miserable.   You  only need one thing to
> make you comfortable
> > and
>  > you're not going to get it--for the boat to stop
> rocking.   So every second
> > is pure misery.  I did all the things they  say to
> do--stay top side and
> > watch the horizon, etc. but  nothing stopped the motion
> so nothing stopped
> > the  sickness.  It eventually subsided after about an
> hour even though  the
> > boat was still rocking and then I was fine.  We
>  didn't have Dramamine on
> > board so I don't know if that  helps.
> > 
> > Another time at sea when I was performing on  a cruise
> ship, we hit a bad
> > storm and most were sick--not  me this time.  I've
> never seen so much mass
> > puking  in my life.  It was surrealistic and actually
> became funny but  only
> > because it wasn't happening to me.  The real
>  tragedy was that every bottle
> > in the crew bar slid off the  shelves and broke.  Not
> funny.
> > 
> >  Slim
> > 
> > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 12:24 PM, Herb  Parsons
> > <hparsons at parsonsys.com>wrote:
> >  
> >> You know how sometimes you have a thought in your
>  head - you know what
> >> you're thinking but can't quite put  it
> into words? (Maybe you don't
> >> know, maybe that's  just approaching senility)
> Anyway, you came up with
> >>  the term I was looking for - I'd like to know
> what my threshold level  is
> >> on seasickness.
> >>
> >> I'm sure  if I was in a real storm (haven't
> been dere done dat yet) on
>  >> the open water, and trying to sleep below, I'd
> succumb. I'm  sure I'm not
> >> immune (I don't think anyone is), but I  can
> tell that my tolerance is
> >> higher than  many.
> >>
> >> Caesar Paul wrote:
> >>  > Hi Herb,
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for the  account of your sailing trip;
> you told it well.  I would
>  >> like to sail out in the wild and beautiful blue
> yonder  sometime.  My hope
> >> is
> >> that is somewhere  in my future.
> >> >
> >> > Sounds like it was a  lot of fun.  I have
> never been sea-sick either and
>  >> am curious to discover what my threshold level is.
> >>  >
> >> > Caesar
> >> >
> >> >  --- On Mon, 10/27/08, Herb Parsons
> <hparsons at parsonsys.com>  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > From: Herb Parsons
>  <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> >> > Subject: Re:  [Rhodes22-list] Herb's
> sailing trip
> >> > To: "The  Rhodes 22 Email List"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>  >> > Date: Monday, October 27, 2008, 6:36 PM
> >>  >
> >> > A friend of mine from NO (Slidell  actually),
> lost his boat that was
> >> > slipped across  mine during Katrina. He used
> the insurance money to buy
>  >> a
> >> > 39' Allied Princess in Florida, and
>  needed it to be moved to Houston.
> >> We
> >> >  planned on 7 days, but had a little trouble
> with the diesel and had  to
> >> > detour to Biloxi.
> >> >
>  >> > I had actually sailed my boat down the coast
> of Texas  from Corpus
> >> > Christi to Port Isabel (and almost decided  to
> move to Port Isabel in
> >> the
> >> >  process), but that was the first time time to
> lose sight of land.  There
> >> > is something almost magical about looking
>  behind you, and suddenly
> >> > realizing that even the haze of  the hotel
> buildings is gone, and all
> >> you
>  >> > see is sky and water. I honestly believe that
> is what I  was born for.
> >> >
> >> > The waves glow at  night in some areas with
> the luminance of the marine
> >>  > life in them. We had flying fish literally
> fly into the cockpit  (we
> >> > didn't eat them, though I asked if they
> were  decent food). I was
> >> shocked
> >> > at the  depth, and breadth, of the Gulf waters
> that turn from blue to
>  >> > brown from the flow of the Mississippi. And
> there's  something that
> >> > almost haunting to hear an oil  platform's
> low moan of a warning siren
> >> > when your  surrounded by darkness and a light
> fog. Another memory that
>  >> > stands out clearly was watching a Carnival
> Cruise liner  pass in the
> >> > darkness, lit up like a small city,  and
> thinking to myself "Those
> >> people
> >>  > think THAT'S a cruise...."
> >> >
> >> >  I've never been seasick in my life, and
> thought this would be a  good
> >> > time to find how much I can take. Though we
>  never had bad weather, the
> >> > second night out, it was VERY  rough seas. The
> layout of the Allied
> >> > Princess  doesn't have as much room as
> other boats the same size that
>  >> > I've seen, and the "plan" was
> for the four of us was to  alternate
> >> >
> >> > between the two usable  berths (one older guy
> couldn't stand watch, but
> >> >  he was a great cook, and wanted to make one
> last sail, sadly, this  was
> >> > it, he passed six months later, more on him
>  in a moment). I was so
> >> > excited, I stayed awake all of  the first
> night. The second night, the
> >> > rough  sees night, I told them I was going to
> make room for myself in
>  >> the
> >> > V-berth, so I wouldn't have to  alternate
> berths. They all laughed and
> >> > said I'd  last a night at the most.
> >> >
> >> > I  remember bedding down after my 10-2 (10pm,
> 2am) watch in 10'  seas,
> >> > thinking "OK, this isn't so bad.
> Sort of  like a ride at Six Flags.
> >> > I'm
> >> > not  sure I can sleep though...." Next
> thing I knew, it was 6:30,  and
> >> the
> >> > cook was asking me if I wanted  to eat
> breakfast or sleep all day. They
> >> > all  laughed about how they could see air
> underneath me on some of  the
> >> > waves, but I never stirred.
> >>  >
> >> > I had the last laugh, we had blueberry
>  pancakes. ALL of them lost their
> >> > breakfast. I did not.  I've still never
> been seasick. I hope for another
> >>  > opportunity someday soon.
> >> >
> >> > The  cook (I'm embarrassed to say I
> can't remember his name), had  major
> >> > heart surgery about 6 months prior. He was
>  told that he would probably
> >> > not survive. He sold his two  boats, and his
> retirement homes, to
> >> provide
>  >> > for his wife.
> >> >
> >> > Then  he survived, and was boatless. He told
> the owner that he would
>  >> like
> >> > to come with us for one final sail,  but
> couldn't handle the rigors of
> >> > standing a  regular watch. He would ride
> along, relieve briefly when
>  >> > needed, but would cook all of our meals. This
> guy was  amazing at what
> >> he
> >> > could cook on an  alcohol stove, in a pitching
> boat on 10' seas. We ate
> >>  > like kings, I kid you not. When we fixed the
> clogged fuel filters  in
> >> > Biloxi, he begged off the rest of the trip.
>  It was too hard on him, but
> >> > he thanked us profusely for  the opportunity
> to sail again. I was proud
> >> > to  have been a small part of giving that to
> another sailor.
>  >> >
> >> > On last funny story from the trip. Because  I
> was (believe it or not)
> >> the
> >> >  youngest of the remaining 3 (at 49 years
> old), I drew cooking  duties.
> >> > I'm not a cook. My first morning, I said
>  "Well guys, no blueberry
> >> > pancakes, but I've done my  best.
> You've got two choices:
> >> >
> >>  > You can have scrambled egges
> >> >
> >> >  Or you can go hungry"
> >> >
> >> > On the plus  side, everyone kept breakfast
> down on that calm morning.
>  >> >
> >> > Anyone (OK, ALMOST anyone) needing  help
> moving a boat across the water,
> >> > give me a  shout. That was one of the best
> vacations I've had.
> >>  >
> >> >
> >> > Chris Geankoplis  wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Herb,
> >>  >>         Tell me about the time on  the
> Gulf, business or pleasure? 
> >> What
>  >> >>
> >> > form
> >> >
>  >> >> of transport.  Exotic or mundane?
> >>  >> And yes no one should judge you (or me)
> till they've  introduced
> >> >>
> >> > themselves
>  >> >
> >> >> and gotten to know us, I  think.
> >> >> Chris G
> >> >> -----  Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "Herb Parsons"
>  <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> >> >> To: "The Rhodes 22  Email List"
> >> >>
> >> >  <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> >
> >>  >> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 4:02 PM
> >> >>  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How much
> time do you spend on the
>  >> computer?
> >> >>
> >> >>
>  >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>  Chris,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I really  DON'T mean to just be
> argumentative on this one, but I
>  >> >>>
> >> > DON'T
> >>  >
> >> >>> see Metaphor's point. I've
> come  home (after sailing across the
> >> >>>
> >>  > gulf for
> >> >
> >> >>> 10 days) to  over 3000 emails in my in
> box. I dare say I didn't
> >>  >>>
> >> > miss any
> >> >
>  >> >>> important ones. The little red X in
> Thunderbird  is pretty easy to
> >> use.
> >> >>> It only  takes me a line or two to see
> if an email is something I
>  >> >>>
> >> > really
> >>  >
> >> >>> need, or just chatter. Most are
>  chatter.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
>  >> >>> Chris Geankoplis wrote:
> >>  >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>  Brad,
> >> >>>>          Thanks for that well
> reasoned, and humorous response; like
>  >> >>>>
> >> > Ben
> >>  >
> >> >>>>
> >>  >>>>
> >> >> C. I
> >>  >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>> never  quite dispair, and then you
> come through with such a great
>  >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >>  >> response.
> >> >>
> >> >>
>  >> >>>> I see Metaphor's point but if
> he just stays  around till after
> >> >>>>
> >> >  the
> >> >
> >> >>>>
> >>  >>>>
> >> >> election
> >>  >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>> he can  bennifite from all the
> Fasciests, Commies, Sheep, and
> >>  >>>>
> >> > wolves on
> >> >
>  >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >>  >> this
> >> >>
> >> >>
>  >> >>>> list because after all we are all
> boating  lambs...well except when
> >> >>>>
> >>  > it
> >> >
> >> >>>>
>  >> >>>>
> >> >> comes
> >>  >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>> to which  type of motor to use, or
> anchor or.......
> >>  >>>>
> >> >>>> Chris G
> >>  >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>  >>>> From: "Brad Haslett"
>  <flybrad at gmail.com>
> >> >>>> To: "The Rhodes 22  Email
> List"
> >> >>>>
> >> >  <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> >
> >>  >>>> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2008
> 6:53 PM
>  >> >>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] How
> much time  do you spend on the
> >> >>>>
> >> >  computer?
> >> >
> >> >>>>
>  >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >>  >>>>> Dear Mr. Wager/Crabber?
> >>  >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Are you a  gambler?  Perhaps a
> crabber?
> >>  >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Rude?  Self  impressed?  No
> sir, I'm a pilot.  Think about
>  >> >>>>>
> >> > it and
> >>  >
> >> >>>>> figure it out for yourself.  
> Little man - aggrandized view of
> >>  >>>>>
> >> > your own
> >>  >
> >> >>>>> importance?  What part  of
> pilot don't you get?  I'm
> >>  >>>>>
> >> > not a  aggrandized
>  >> >
> >> >>>>>
> >>  >>>>>
> >> >>
> >>  >>
> >> >>>>> little man, I am a god!
>  >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>  Listen.  My adventures have
> been "bigger-than-life"
>  >> >>>>>
> >> > for a kid of a
>  >> >
> >> >>>>> construction worker from  a
> town of 650 people.  The amazing
> >>  >>>>>
> >> > thing is,
> >>  >
> >> >>>>> they are not bullshit and  if
> you envy them then you have a
> >>  >>>>>
> >> > problem.
> >>  >
> >> >>>>> Again, many of us on this
>  board have dined and stayed at each
> >>  >>>>>
> >> > other's
> >>  >
> >> >>>>> house, sailed on each
>  other's boats, and come to each
> >> >>>>>
>  >> > other's rescue
> >> >
> >>  >>>>> in private. You might want to
> lurk a bit longer  before you
> >> >>>>>
> >> > become  so
> >> >
> >> >>>>>  judgmental.
> >> >>>>>
> >>  >>>>> To answer your question about
> boats and boat  names - I once
> >> >>>>>
> >> >  owned a
> >> >
> >> >>>>> Rhodes22  and I regret the day
> I sold it.  I now own a 30'
> >>  >>>>>
> >> > S2 named the
> >>  >
> >> >>>>> "CoraShen" after my
>  daughter Cora and her
> >> >>>>>
> >>  > grandfather Mr. Shen.  Mr.
> >> >
> >>  >>>>> Shen died recently.  He was a
> "little man"  who was
> >> >>>>>
> >> >  "aggrandized" by
> >> >
> >> >>>>>  his thousands of employees
> and one of the kindest and gentlest
>  >> >>>>>
> >> > men I
> >>  >
> >> >>>>> ever met.  His story  is
> buried in the archives of this list.
> >>  >>>>>
> >> > There's
> >>  >
> >> >>>>> a lot of interesting  history
> there, and as Ed would say,
> >>  >>>>>
> >> > "search the
> >>  >
> >> >>>>> archives".
> >>  >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Perhaps you should  consider
> barking for awhile on this list
> >>  >>>>>
> >> > before you
> >>  >
> >> >>>>> default to biting.
> >>  >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Brad
>  >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
>  >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
>  >> >>>>> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 9:28
> PM,  Metaphor
> >> >>>>>
> >> >  <mwager at bluecrab.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >>  >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >>  >>>>>> Mr. Haslitt,
> >>  >>>>>> Sorry, but I get the
> impression that you are  a rude, self
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >  impressed
> >> >
> >>  >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
>  >> >>>> little
> >> >>>>
>  >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >>  >>>>>> man with an aggrandized
> view of your own  importance.   You
> >> >>>>>>
>  >> > copy a lot
> >> >
> >>  >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
>  >> >> of
> >> >>
> >>  >>
> >> >>>>>> posts from other  sources,
> and tell grand stories about
> >>  >>>>>>
> >> > yourself and
> >>  >
> >> >>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>
> >> >> your
> >>  >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>>>>  bigger-than-life
> adventures, but otherwise offer little of
>  >> >>>>>>
> >> > substance.
>  >> >
> >> >>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>
> >> >>>> When
>  >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >>  >>>>
> >> >>>>>> people don't  agree
> with you, you belittle them.
> >>  >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>  Do  you own or sail a
> Rhodes?  If not, why are you even on
>  >> >>>>>>
> >> > this forum?
>  >> >
> >> >>>>>> I have had many  questions
> answered by sailors, but none by
> >>  >>>>>>
> >> > you I learn
> >>  >
> >> >>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>
> >> >>>> most
>  >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >>  >>>>
> >> >>>>>> by simply listening  to
> what they have to say.  You just
> >>  >>>>>>
> >> > seem to blow
> >>  >
> >> >>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>
> >> >>>> your
>  >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >>  >>>>
> >> >>>>>> own horn so loudly  that
> only you can hear the sound of
> >>  >>>>>>
> >> > your own
> >>  >
> >> >>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>
> >> >>>> pomposity.
>  >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >>  >>>>
> >> >>>>>> There are forums  out
> there that are in the big leagues.
> >>  >>>>>>
> >> > You might find
> >>  >
> >> >>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>
> >> >>>> the
>  >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >>  >>>>
> >> >>>>>> challenges in one  of
> those more demanding than pandering
> >>  >>>>>>
> >> > to your two
> >>  >
> >> >>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>
> >> >>>> friends
>  >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >>  >>>>
> >> >>>>>> on this one.   Other
> forums that I participate in have an
> >>  >>>>>>
> >> > PM (private
> >>  >
> >> >>>>>> mnessage) option that 
>  allows for personal conversation
> >>  >>>>>>
> >> > between
> >>  >
> >> >>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>
> >> >>>>  individuals.
> >> >>>>
> >>  >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >>  >>>>>> If it is not available on
> this thread, you  might try
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >  regular emails
> >> >
> >>  >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
>  >> >>>> between
> >> >>>>
>  >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >>  >>>>>> you and your two other
> friends.
>  >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>> I  probably could figure
> out how to use the filters here,
>  >> >>>>>>
> >> > but too often
>  >> >
> >> >>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>
> >> >>>> on
> >>  >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >>  >>>>
> >> >>>>>> these threads,  posts are
> not properly (should I say
> >>  >>>>>>
> >> > honestly) labeled,
>  >> >
> >> >>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>
> >> >>>> so
> >>  >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >>  >>>>
> >> >>>>>> filters don't  work.
> >> >>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>> By the way, Metaphor is
> the name of my  boat.  What is the
> >> >>>>>>
>  >> > name of
> >> >
> >>  >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
>  >> >> yours?
> >> >>
> >>  >>
> >> >>>>>> Brad Haslett-2  wrote:
> >> >>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>
>  >> >>>>>>> Met, uh, Phor?
> >>  >>>>>>> You're smart
> enough to bitch, you're  probably
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >  smart enough to filter
> >> >
> >>  >>>>>>> your e-mail.
> >>  >>>>>>>
> >> >>>>>>>  Brad
> >> >>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 26, 2008
> at 8:31 PM,  Metaphor
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >  <mwager at bluecrab.org>
> >> >
> >>  >>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>
> >> >> wrote:
> >>  >>
> >> >>
> >>  >>>>>>>> I've got a
> simple question, but  mostly applied
> >> >>>>>>>>
>  >> > to Herb and Brad, and
> >> >
> >>  >>>>>>>> somewhat
> >>  >>>>>>>> to Tootle:
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>> Do you guys have
> jobs or real lives,  or do you
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >>  > spend all day on the
> >> >
> >>  >>>>>>>> internet
> >>  >>>>>>>> and then posting
> to this forum?   There are a
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >>  > couple of other volume
> >> >
> >>  >>>>>>>> posters,
> >>  >>>>>>>> but none so
> prolific as you are. I  get the sense
> >> >>>>>>>>
>  >> > that the sailors
> >> >
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >> >> are
>  >> >>
> >> >>
> >>  >>>>>>>> pretty
> >>  >>>>>>>> much giving up
> getting airtime in  competition with
> >> >>>>>>>>
>  >> > the political
> >> >
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>  nature
> >> >>>>
> >>  >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>> of
> >>  >>>>>>>> this forum.
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>> I try to follow
> the various threads,  but have lost
> >> >>>>>>>>
>  >> > interest in this
> >> >
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>  forum
> >> >>>>
> >>  >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>> because it has so
> little to do with  sailing,
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >>  > Rhodes 22's or nautical
> >> >
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>  life
> >> >>>>
> >>  >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>> in
> >>  >>>>>>>> general.  Reading
> the same  paranoid information
> >> >>>>>>>>
>  >> > from the three of
> >> >
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >> >> you
>  >> >>
> >> >>
> >>  >>>>>>>> over
> >>  >>>>>>>> and over again is
> tiresome, so much  so that
> >> >>>>>>>>
> >>  > I've begun to applaud
> >> >
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >> >> your
>  >> >>
> >> >>
> >>  >>>>>>>> challengers --
> Ben C, petelargo,  etc.,  simply
> >> >>>>>>>>
>  >> > because they are
> >> >
> >>  >>>>>>>> challenging
> >>  >>>>>>>> you, and I have
> (but not always)  voted Republican.
> >> >>>>>>>>
>  >> >>>>>>>> Your time would
> be better  spent arguing on a
> >> >>>>>>>>
>  >> > political forum rather
> >> >
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>  that
> >> >>>>
> >>  >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>> a
> >>  >>>>>>>> sailing one, and
> leaving this forum  to talk about
> >> >>>>>>>>
>  >> > the boring details
> >> >
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>> of
>  >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >>  >>>>
> >> >>>>>>>> the
>  >> >>>>>>>> Rhodes 22 -- you
> know,  technical issues,
> >> >>>>>>>>
>  >> > innovative re-designs or
> >> >
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>  fixes,
> >> >>>>
> >>  >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>> sailing
> techniques, great sailing  adventures, that
> >> >>>>>>>>
>  >> > kind of stuff of
> >> >
> >>  >>>>>>>> interest
> >>  >>>>>>>> to Rhodes 22
> owners and sailors...  certainly there
> >> >>>>>>>>
>  >> > would be fewer
> >> >
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >>  >>>>>>>>
> >> >>>>  posts,
> >> >>>>
> >>  >>>>
> >> >>>>
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> >>  >>>>>>>> a
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