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2008-11-11; 05:52:26 EST
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Jerry, didn't like the way bare skin sweated when sitting on the bottom siders Most folks on my boat have at least a swim suit on. I've never tried bare skin sailing. Hmmm, making a note to try it if our lake ever returns. Rummy In a message dated 11/10/2008 6:46:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, cjlowe at sssnet.com writes: We took a couple for a test sail 2 years ago,who had a Potter 19 that had bottom sider cushions.They commented on how much better they liked Stan's cushions,which were several years old.(came with the boat,when I bought it used)They said they didn't like the way bare skin sweated when sitting on the bottom siders.Never tried them myself,just something you might not think to consider. Jerry LoweSee the original archive post
On 11/10/2008, "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com> wrote: >Carol, > >We are looking at replacing our cushions and really like the ones at: >http://www.bottomsiders.com/, although we are not sure that they cost less >than the current value of our R22. You might want to ask for a quote. > >In the make it yourself category, you may find what you want at one of these >sites: >http://www.foamorder.com/closedcell.html (look at the Flo-Tex) >http://www.closedcellfoams.com/minicel.html (look at the Minicell) >http://www.marinefoam.com/closedcellacousticalfoam.html?page_type=flotation-f oams >(look at the Ultra Foam) >https://www.outdoortextiles.com/browse.php?CatID=11&SubCatID=66&page=1 >(they also have Minicell) > >Some of these companies ship free (I know, you're paying for it somewhere.) > >Lots to look at and think about. Let us know if you find a reasonable >solution. > >Mike >s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81) >Nissequogue River, NY > >From: <CarolN8 at aol.com> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 5:03 PM >>I need to replace the cockpit cushions and Stan said I needed to make sure >>I >> used closed cell foam. So does anyone know where to find closed cell foam >> in >> my local area? Is there a certain type of store that carries it? >> >> Carol >> >> >> In a message dated 11/10/2008 10:01:03 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, >> rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org writes: >> >> Send Rhodes22-list mailing list submissions to >> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> rhodes22-list-owner at rhodes22.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Rhodes22-list digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: for Brad's eyes and those who reason only ... (Herb Parsons) >> 2. Re: for Brad's eyes and those who reason only ... (Herb Parsons) >> 3. Re: for Brad's eyes and those who reason only ... (John Shulick) >> 4. Re: for Brad's eyes and those who reason only ... (John Shulick) >> 5. Re: for Brad's eyes and those who reason only ... >> (Michael D. Weisner) >> 6. Re: my last word on the election (ben) >> 7. question about electricity (Just bent) >> 8. St Petersburg boat show. For stan (Ron Singerman) >> 9. Re: question about electricity (R22RumRunner at aol.com) >> 10. question about shocking Rhodes 22's (Tootle) >> 11. Sailboats with water in desert... (Tootle) >> 12. Re: question about shocking Rhodes 22's (R22RumRunner at aol.com) >> 13. When you are dealing with Democrats, think of this ... (Tootle) >> 14. Re: When you are dealing with Democrats, think of this ... >> (R22RumRunner at aol.com) >> 15. Re: When you are dealing with Democrats, think of this ... >> (John Shulick) >> 16. (Humor) Banister of Life... (R22RumRunner at aol.com) >> 17. Re: question about shocking Rhodes 22's (John Shulick) >> 18. Re: question about electricity (Michael D. Weisner) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:53:28 -0600 >> From: Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] for Brad's eyes and those who reason only >> ... >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Message-ID: <49184AE8.4070307 at parsonsys.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Thanks John, there are lots of us around. >> >> Then there are folks who want to deride people because of their beliefs, >> political views etc. You took a polite discussion about eminent domain >> and turned it an accusation against Brad and I about "final solutions". >> >> Maybe you and Slim SHOULD get together. You seem to have many >> similarities, and he's looking for someone to do weird stuff to his ass. >> >> >> John Shulick wrote: >>> Steven, >>> >>> As a fellow alum from Duquesne Univ. I thank you for your support. Over >>> the >>> last 30 or so years I was a church soloist and section leader for just >> about >>> every major faith and I've seen many Herbs and some spices as >>> well.(sorry >>> couldn't resist) >>> >>> John Shulick >>> >>> >>> >>> Steven Alm wrote: >>> >>>> Herb, >>>> >>>> Do you have any idea how much you sound like you're talking out your >>>> ass? >>>> Do you really want to put up your 1099 to show off what you've donated >>>> to >>>> charity? You're such a bore. I'm going to guess that maybe you >>>> tithe a >>>> full 10% to your fundamentalist church because they tell you to--out of >>>> false compassion. And the money goes to your church--not anything >>>> real. >>>> Or >>>> at best a small percentage. I know you donate your time riding your >>>> motorcycle around for stuff but is that actually giving? You're a >>>> cheerleader. Great. >>>> >>>> As for the Native Americans you don't seem to have a grasp on history. >>>> Just >>>> because the Injuns didn't have a concept of land ownership or fences >>>> doesn't >>>> mean the white man didn't take it away from them. You're an idiot. >>>> The >>>> Indians were living in the stone-age and were decimated by the white >>>> man >>>> out >>>> of greed and arrogance. There was no need for that. To say that they >>>> simply met a stronger enemy completely usurps all that compassion and >>>> charity that you espouse. You're full of shit! I was born on the >>>> Sissiton >>>> reservation in South Dakota and you can kiss my ass! >>>> >>>> Slim >>>> >>>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 10:36 PM, John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> "John," >>>>> (at least you are capable of starting a post properly by addressing me >>>>> by >>>>> name. I assumed you were ignorant at first but now I see you're simply >>>>> rude. >>>>> >>>>> "Go screw yourself." >>>>> (Sorry to old to bend that way anymore perhaps you could send a pic >>>>> of >>>>> how >>>>> you accomplish it yourself.) >>>>> >>>>> "I've never offered anything like a ""final solution"". >>>>> You're reference reveals you for what you are." >>>>> >>>>> (you have no clue as to who or what I am) >>>>> >>>>> As far as me "detesting" anyone, you again speak from total ignorance. >>>>> I'll make a deal with you though, I'll make my tax returns for the >>>>> last >>>>> 10 years public on here to show how much I've given to charity if >>>>> you'll >>>>> do the same. >>>>> >>>>> (Do you recall the parable of the pharisee and the old woman who went >>>>> to >>>>> the >>>>> temple to make sacrifice?) >>>>> >>>>> You ready to put up? I doubt it. I suspect the size of your mouth is >>>>> exceeded mainly by your ego, and your actions are far lacking compared >>>>> to either. >>>>> >>>>> (In the mouth and ego department its no contest you win) >>>>> >>>>> If the government determines a need for social charity programs, they >>>>> should do so by purchasing land they need. Simple. If it's too >>>>> expensive, buy elsewhere. >>>>> >>>>> (that's what is happening in this instance so what's your problem) >>>>> >>>>> As to your notion about "stealing it from the original owners", which >>>>> land are you talking about? You'll have to be a little more specific. >>>>> Some of the Indian tribes didn't ascribe to the notion of "owning >>>>> land". >>>>> Others regularly took land from each other by armed conflict. So, the >>>>> "theft" was actually their normally accepted means of transfer, they >>>>> simply were defeated by a stronger enemy. >>>>> >>>>> (like white men with guns and smallpox infested blankets? do the words >>>>> "trail of tears" mean anything to you?) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> View this message in context: >>>>> >> http://www.nabble.com/for-Brad%27s-eyes-and-those-who-reason-only-...-tp20405744p20414236.html >>>>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>> >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go >>>>> to >>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to >>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:57:28 -0600 >> From: Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] for Brad's eyes and those who reason only >> ... >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Message-ID: <49184BD8.3000201 at parsonsys.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> Sorry John, let's just say that your word for it wouldn't be good enough >> for me, you do keep records, right? If we're just going to say what the >> percentage is, we can say. >> >> Not interested in your social security. That's not giving, that's the >> government taking. >> >> As to your Wiki entry, thanks for confirming what I was trying to say. >> It's good to see you are actually capable of learning. 1830 was a tad >> later than the founding father's period. >> >> >> John Shulick wrote: >>> >>> "I've got a heck of a deal for you. I'll buy your boat from you >>> at the price that I determine is fair, and you can chose to accept it or >>> .... oh wait, that would be your only choice. >>> >>> You do understand the implementation of eminent domain, right?" >>> >>> If you came for my boat I would sink it. If you came for my house I >>> would >>> burn it. If you came for my land I would render it unusable. You could >>> have >>> it after you have have hauled my dead body off it. >>> >>> "The only thing you can do to a free man is kill him." Robert A. >>> Heinlein >>> >>> "You need to study history a little closer. The trail of tears happened >>> LONG after the founding fathers did their thing, you can't blame that >>> one on them." >>> >>> Excerpt from the Wikipedia >>> >>> The Trail of Tears was the forced relocation of Native Americans from >> their >>> homelands to Indian Territory (present day Oklahoma) in the Western >>> United >>> States. The phrase originated from a description of the removal of the >>> Choctaw Nation in 1831. Many Native Americans suffered from exposure, >>> disease, and starvation while en route to their destinations, and many >> died, >>> including, for example, 4,000 of the 15,000 relocated Cherokee. >>> Thousands >> of >>> enslaved and free African-Americans (as slaves accompanying their Native >>> American slaveowners and as former runaway slaves that were assisted by, >>> assimilated by, or married to members of the tribes) accompanied the >> removed >>> nations on the Trail of Tears. >>> In 1830, the Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Muscogee (Creek), and >>> Seminole >>> (sometimes collectively referred to as the Five Civilized Tribes) were >>> living as autonomous nations in what would be called the American Deep >>> South. The process of cultural transformation (proposed by GEORGE >> WASHINGTON >>> and HENERY KNOX) was gaining momentum, especially among the Cherokee >>> and >>> Choctaw. Indian removal was first proposed by THOMAS JEFFERSON. Andrew >>> Jackson was the first U.S. President to implement removal with the >>> passage >>> of the Indian Removal Act of 1830. In 1831 the Choctaw were the first to >>> be >>> removed, and they became the model for all other removals. After the >>> Choctaw, the Seminole were removed in 1832, the Creek in 1834, then the >>> Chickasaw in 1837, and finally the Cherokee in 1838. >>> >>> "I'll make my tax returns for the last >>> 10 years public on here to show how much I've given to charity if >>> you'll >>> do the same." >>> >>> To many pages to post, HOWEVER I'm Prepared to release my annual social >>> security statement showing what I've earned in my lifetime and will >>> write >> in >>> how many jobs I had to work to make it along with what I gave to >>> charity.(Care to dance?) >>> >>> John Shulick >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 07:38:07 -0800 (PST) >> From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] for Brad's eyes and those who reason only >> ... >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >> Message-ID: <20422255.post at talk.nabble.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> >> >> >> hparsons wrote: >>> >>> "Thanks John, there are lots of us around." >>> >>> That's why this country is in such trouble >>> >>> "Then there are folks who want to deride people because of their >>> beliefs, >>> political views etc. You took a polite discussion about eminent domain >>> and turned it an accusation against Brad and I about "final solutions"." >>> >>> Oh please listen to the pot calling the kettle black. If you don't want >>> comment about your conversations then don't post them in a public forum >>> such as this. Use the back channel or private e-mails to amuse >>> yourselves >>> with your conservative nonsense, please leave the rest of us out of it. >>> >>> "Maybe you and Slim SHOULD get together. You seem to have many >>> similarities, and he's looking for someone to do weird stuff to his >>> ass." >>> >>> I would consider performing with Steven if he were so inclined and the >>> time presented itself. the only ass I'm concerned with is the one I'm >>> responding to right now. >>> >>> >>> John Shulick wrote: >>>> Steven, >>>> >>>> As a fellow alum from Duquesne Univ. I thank you for your support. Over >>>> the >>>> last 30 or so years I was a church soloist and section leader for just >>>> about >>>> every major faith and I've seen many Herbs and some spices as >>>> well.(sorry >>>> couldn't resist) >>>> >>>> John Shulick >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Steven Alm wrote: >>>> >>>>> Herb, >>>>> >>>>> Do you have any idea how much you sound like you're talking out your >>>>> ass? >>>>> Do you really want to put up your 1099 to show off what you've >>>>> donated >>>>> to >>>>> charity? You're such a bore. I'm going to guess that maybe you >>>>> tithe >>>>> a >>>>> full 10% to your fundamentalist church because they tell you to--out >>>>> of >>>>> false compassion. And the money goes to your church--not anything >>>>> real. >>>>> Or >>>>> at best a small percentage. I know you donate your time riding your >>>>> motorcycle around for stuff but is that actually giving? You're a >>>>> cheerleader. Great. >>>>> >>>>> As for the Native Americans you don't seem to have a grasp on history. >>>>> Just >>>>> because the Injuns didn't have a concept of land ownership or fences >>>>> doesn't >>>>> mean the white man didn't take it away from them. You're an idiot. >>>>> The >>>>> Indians were living in the stone-age and were decimated by the white >>>>> man >>>>> out >>>>> of greed and arrogance. There was no need for that. To say that >>>>> they >>>>> simply met a stronger enemy completely usurps all that compassion and >>>>> charity that you espouse. You're full of shit! I was born on the >>>>> Sissiton >>>>> reservation in South Dakota and you can kiss my ass! >>>>> >>>>> Slim >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 10:36 PM, John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> "John," >>>>>> (at least you are capable of starting a post properly by addressing >>>>>> me >>>>>> by >>>>>> name. I assumed you were ignorant at first but now I see you're >>>>>> simply >>>>>> rude. >>>>>> >>>>>> "Go screw yourself." >>>>>> (Sorry to old to bend that way anymore perhaps you could send a pic >>>>>> of >>>>>> how >>>>>> you accomplish it yourself.) >>>>>> >>>>>> "I've never offered anything like a ""final solution"". >>>>>> You're reference reveals you for what you are." >>>>>> >>>>>> (you have no clue as to who or what I am) >>>>>> >>>>>> As far as me "detesting" anyone, you again speak from total >>>>>> ignorance. >>>>>> I'll make a deal with you though, I'll make my tax returns for the >>>>>> last >>>>>> 10 years public on here to show how much I've given to charity if >>>>>> you'll >>>>>> do the same. >>>>>> >>>>>> (Do you recall the parable of the pharisee and the old woman who went >>>>>> to >>>>>> the >>>>>> temple to make sacrifice?) >>>>>> >>>>>> You ready to put up? I doubt it. I suspect the size of your mouth is >>>>>> exceeded mainly by your ego, and your actions are far lacking >>>>>> compared >>>>>> to either. >>>>>> >>>>>> (In the mouth and ego department its no contest you win) >>>>>> >>>>>> If the government determines a need for social charity programs, >>>>>> they >>>>>> should do so by purchasing land they need. Simple. If it's too >>>>>> expensive, buy elsewhere. >>>>>> >>>>>> (that's what is happening in this instance so what's your problem) >>>>>> >>>>>> As to your notion about "stealing it from the original owners", which >>>>>> land are you talking about? You'll have to be a little more specific. >>>>>> Some of the Indian tribes didn't ascribe to the notion of "owning >>>>>> land". >>>>>> Others regularly took land from each other by armed conflict. So, the >>>>>> "theft" was actually their normally accepted means of transfer, they >>>>>> simply were defeated by a stronger enemy. >>>>>> >>>>>> (like white men with guns and smallpox infested blankets? do the >>>>>> words >>>>>> "trail of tears" mean anything to you?) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> View this message in context: >>>>>> >> http://www.nabble.com/for-Brad%27s-eyes-and-those-who-reason-only-...-tp20405744p20414236.html >>>>>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>> >>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go >>>>>> to >>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go >>>>> to >>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/for-Brad%27s-eyes-and-those-who-reason-only-...-tp20405744p20422255.html >> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 07:45:50 -0800 (PST) >> From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] for Brad's eyes and those who reason only >> ... >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >> Message-ID: <20422391.post at talk.nabble.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> >> >> >> hparsons wrote: >>> >>> Sorry John, let's just say that your word for it wouldn't be good enough >>> for me, you do keep records, right? If we're just going to say what the >>> percentage is, we can say. >>> >>> Didn't think you had the stones to back up your BS >>> >>> "Not interested in your social security. That's not giving, that's the >>> government taking." >>> >>> Not interested in ever seeing me collect social security would be more >>> accurate >>> >>> "As to your Wiki entry, thanks for confirming what I was trying to say. >>> It's good to see you are actually capable of learning. 1830 was a tad >>> later than the founding father's period." >>> >>> Obviously you have trouble comprehending what you read. >>> >>> >>> John Shulick wrote: >>>> >>>> "I've got a heck of a deal for you. I'll buy your boat from you >>>> at the price that I determine is fair, and you can chose to accept it >>>> or >>>> .... oh wait, that would be your only choice. >>>> >>>> You do understand the implementation of eminent domain, right?" >>>> >>>> If you came for my boat I would sink it. If you came for my house I >>>> would >>>> burn it. If you came for my land I would render it unusable. You could >>>> have >>>> it after you have have hauled my dead body off it. >>>> >>>> "The only thing you can do to a free man is kill him." Robert A. >>>> Heinlein >>>> >>>> "You need to study history a little closer. The trail of tears happened >>>> LONG after the founding fathers did their thing, you can't blame that >>>> one on them." >>>> >>>> Excerpt from the Wikipedia >>>> >>>> The Trail of Tears was the forced relocation of Native Americans from >>>> their >>>> homelands to Indian Territory (present day Oklahoma) in the Western >>>> United >>>> States. The phrase originated from a description of the removal of the >>>> Choctaw Nation in 1831. Many Native Americans suffered from exposure, >>>> disease, and starvation while en route to their destinations, and many >>>> died, >>>> including, for example, 4,000 of the 15,000 relocated Cherokee. >>>> Thousands >>>> of >>>> enslaved and free African-Americans (as slaves accompanying their >>>> Native >>>> American slaveowners and as former runaway slaves that were assisted >>>> by, >>>> assimilated by, or married to members of the tribes) accompanied the >>>> removed >>>> nations on the Trail of Tears. >>>> In 1830, the Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Muscogee (Creek), and >>>> Seminole >>>> (sometimes collectively referred to as the Five Civilized Tribes) were >>>> living as autonomous nations in what would be called the American Deep >>>> South. The process of cultural transformation (proposed by GEORGE >>>> WASHINGTON >>>> and HENERY KNOX) was gaining momentum, especially among the Cherokee >>>> and >>>> Choctaw. Indian removal was first proposed by THOMAS JEFFERSON. Andrew >>>> Jackson was the first U.S. President to implement removal with the >>>> passage >>>> of the Indian Removal Act of 1830. In 1831 the Choctaw were the first >>>> to >>>> be >>>> removed, and they became the model for all other removals. After the >>>> Choctaw, the Seminole were removed in 1832, the Creek in 1834, then the >>>> Chickasaw in 1837, and finally the Cherokee in 1838. >>>> >>>> "I'll make my tax returns for the last >>>> 10 years public on here to show how much I've given to charity if >>>> you'll >>>> do the same." >>>> >>>> To many pages to post, HOWEVER I'm Prepared to release my annual >>>> social >>>> security statement showing what I've earned in my lifetime and will >>>> write >>>> in >>>> how many jobs I had to work to make it along with what I gave to >>>> charity.(Care to dance?) >>>> >>>> John Shulick >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/for-Brad%27s-eyes-and-those-who-reason-only-...-tp20405744p20422391.html >> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:46:42 -0500 >> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] for Brad's eyes and those who reason only >> ... >> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Message-ID: <3CD9CB18A9874C7D9ADEC1084154C3DB at ebsoffice> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Herb, >> >> What are you trying to say? This is an attempt to phonetically spell a >> foreign word, the name that they were known as, not just a name that was >> applied to a location. >> >> You guessed wrong. >> >> Mike >> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81) >> Nissequogue River, NY >> >> From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com> Sent: Monday, November 10, >> 2008 9:50 AM >>> I'd say the indians didn't name the reservation, so my guess would be >>> that the English spelling works. >>> >>> >>> Michael D. Weisner wrote: >>>> Herb, >>>> >>>> How is it that an English language spelling of a non-English word can >>>> be >>>> said to be spelled incorrectly? >>>> >>>> A simple review of documents pertaining to the "Sissiton" through >>>> Google >>>> revealed the following treaty with the Sioux (original scan of printed >>>> text) >>>> regarding the "Sissiton Bands" in which both spellings are used on the >>>> same >>>> page of the document: >>>> http://digital.library.okstate.edu/Kappler/vol2/pgimages/sio0956.jpg >>>> >>>> Inconsistencies in translations of foreign words into common language >>>> seem >>>> to occur fairly often. When in China, just try to order Beijing Duck. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> s/v Shanghaid'd Summer ('81) >>>> Nissequogue River, NY >>>> >>>> From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com> Sent: Monday, November >>>> 10, >>>> 2008 8:36 AM >>>> >>>>> C'mon now, if a guy wants to get bent out of shape over being born on >>>>> a >>>>> reservation and his treatment of the "Injuns" by "the white man", then >>>>> can't spell the tribe's name, I say an exception is certainly in >>>>> order. >>>>> >>>>> R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Herb, >>>>>> At one time we had a list member named Steve who had a problem with >>>>>> spelling >>>>>> and grammar. At that time it was determined that spelling and >>>>>> grammatical >>>>>> errors were not fair game. It simply would have been to easy. >>>>>> >>>>>> Rummy >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> In a message dated 11/10/2008 1:27:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, >>>>>> hparsons at parsonsys.com writes: >>>>>> >>>>>> My my Slim, little overboard there, aren't you? >>>>>> >>>>>> Nah, I don't REALLY want to put my 1099 up. I figured John would bow >>>>>> out. He did. >>>>>> You missed the percentage, by a considerable amount. >>>>>> I don't belong to a fundamentalist church. >>>>>> The church I belong to doesn't really tell me to do much of >>>>>> anything. >>>>>> I've been there a while, they know that telling me what to do >>>>>> doesn't >>>>>> work well >>>>>> Probably about 1/2 of what we give to charity goes to our local >>>>>> church. >>>>>> There are several other entities that we give to as well. >>>>>> Cheerleader? Wow. Because I ride with a group of guys that pay their >>>>>> respects at funerals? And you call ME "a bore". >>>>>> >>>>>> I think if you'll reread my post, I never said anything similar to >>>>>> "the >>>>>> white man didn't take it away from them". As a matter of fact, I >>>>>> think >>>>>> I >>>>>> said just the opposite. They were defeated by a stronger enemy. Look >>>>>> a >>>>>> little closer to home for the idiot. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't care to kiss your ass, not really into that, but feel free >>>>>> to >>>>>> invite what guys you can find that are. And, I don't care where you >>>>>> were >>>>>> born, you're still an idiot. If you were born on the Sisseton >>>>>> reservation in SD, I'd figure you'd at least know the tribe was >>>>>> Sisseton >>>>>> not Sissiton. >>>>>> >>>>>> And, I never said anything about fences, but some tribes most >>>>>> definitely >>>>>> had concepts of "land ownership". They defended their hunting >>>>>> grounds >>>>>> against other tribes as fiercely as the white man defended their >>>>>> fences. >>>>>> Two cultures clashed, the more advanced of the two prevailed. >>>>>> >>>>>> But, it's a moot point. I was talking about the founding fathers, >>>>>> not >>>>>> the "white man" in general. The founding fathers were not involved >>>>>> in >>>>>> breaking treaties, decimation of tribes, or the spreading of >>>>>> smallpox. >>>>>> South Dakota was the still the mostly unexplored frontier, and I >>>>>> don't >>>>>> think they (the founding fathers) had much exposure to the Sisseton >>>>>> tribe. >>>>>> >>>>>> And none of that has anything to do with John's stupid statement >>>>>> about >> >>>>>> a >>>>>> "final solution". >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't have much in the way of charity or compassion for folks that >>>>>> are >>>>>> long since gone. Not much I can do for them. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Steven Alm wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Herb, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do you have any idea how much you sound like you're talking out >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> ass? >>>>>>> Do you really want to put up your 1099 to show off what you've >>>>>>> donated >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> charity? You're such a bore. I'm going to guess that maybe you >>>>>>> tithe >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> full 10% to your fundamentalist church because they tell you >>>>>>> to--out >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> false compassion. And the money goes to your church--not anything >>>>>>> real. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Or >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> at best a small percentage. I know you donate your time riding >>>>>>> your >>>>>>> motorcycle around for stuff but is that actually giving? You're a >>>>>>> cheerleader. Great. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As for the Native Americans you don't seem to have a grasp on >>>>>>> history. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Just >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> because the Injuns didn't have a concept of land ownership or >>>>>>> fences >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> doesn't >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> mean the white man didn't take it away from them. You're an >>>>>>> idiot. >>>>>>> The >>>>>>> Indians were living in the stone-age and were decimated by the >>>>>>> white >>>>>>> man >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> out >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> of greed and arrogance. There was no need for that. To say that >>>>>>> they >>>>>>> simply met a stronger enemy completely usurps all that compassion >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> charity that you espouse. You're full of shit! I was born on the >>>>>>> Sissiton >>>>>>> reservation in South Dakota and you can kiss my ass! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Slim >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 10:36 PM, John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "John," >>>>>>>> (at least you are capable of starting a post properly by >>>>>>>> addressing >>>>>>>> me >>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>> name. I assumed you were ignorant at first but now I see you're >>>>>>>> simply >>>>>>>> rude. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Go screw yourself." >>>>>>>> (Sorry to old to bend that way anymore perhaps you could send a >>>>>>>> pic >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>> you accomplish it yourself.) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "I've never offered anything like a ""final solution"". >>>>>>>> You're reference reveals you for what you are." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (you have no clue as to who or what I am) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As far as me "detesting" anyone, you again speak from total >>>>>>>> ignorance. >>>>>>>> I'll make a deal with you though, I'll make my tax returns for >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> last >>>>>>>> 10 years public on here to show how much I've given to charity if >>>>>>>> you'll >>>>>>>> do the same. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (Do you recall the parable of the pharisee and the old woman who >>>>>>>> went >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> temple to make sacrifice?) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You ready to put up? I doubt it. I suspect the size of your mouth >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> exceeded mainly by your ego, and your actions are far lacking >>>>>>>> compared >>>>>>>> to either. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (In the mouth and ego department its no contest you win) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If the government determines a need for social charity programs, >>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>> should do so by purchasing land they need. Simple. If it's too >>>>>>>> expensive, buy elsewhere. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (that's what is happening in this instance so what's your >>>>>>>> problem) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As to your notion about "stealing it from the original owners", >>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>> land are you talking about? You'll have to be a little more >>>>>>>> specific. >>>>>>>> Some of the Indian tribes didn't ascribe to the notion of "owning >>>>>>>> land". >>>>>>>> Others regularly took land from each other by armed conflict. So, >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> "theft" was actually their normally accepted means of transfer, >>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>> simply were defeated by a stronger enemy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (like white men with guns and smallpox infested blankets? do the >>>>>>>> words >>>>>>>> "trail of tears" mean anything to you?) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> View this message in context: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.nabble.c >> om/for-Brad%27s-eyes-and-those-who-reason-only-...-tp20405744p20414236.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list >>>>>>>> go >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go >>>>>> to >>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and >>>>>> all >>>>>> other >>>>>> Holiday needs. Search Now. >>>>>> >> (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from >>>>>> -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001) >>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go >>>>>> to >>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go >>>>> to >>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to >>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 09:46:51 -0600 >> From: "ben" <benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] my last word on the election >> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Message-ID: <000601c9434b$8e17c360$aa474a20$@com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> That was very close >> Haiku is a fine art form >> The first line needs work >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org >> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of stan >> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 9:53 >> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] my last word on the election >> >> We Americans have not changed >> >> we still rely on black folk >> >> to clean up our mess >> >> >> ss >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to >> http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 7 >> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 07:56:17 -0800 (PST) >> From: Just bent <j.bulfer at jbtek.com> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] question about electricity >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >> Message-ID: <20422568.post at talk.nabble.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> >> Went sailing yesterday in somewhat stormy weather. Had a great day. When >> we >> got back to the dock, when you touch the boat, you would get shocked. I >> unhooked the battery & still got shocked. Was it static electricity from >> the >> storm? >> Jb >> >> Jb http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01925.jpeg >> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01927.jpeg >> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01930.jpeg >> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01931.jpeg >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/question-about-electricity-tp20422568p20422568.html >> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 8 >> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:13:26 -0500 >> From: "Ron Singerman" <sail at tds.net> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] St Petersburg boat show. For stan >> To: "Rhodes list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Message-ID: <D1D6AAF915EB4FEE9B55C76F6D2FFE4C at computer> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> stan, >> >> Will you be represented at the St Pete show? >> >> Fair winds and following seas, >> >>>>ron<< >> S/V Serenity >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 9 >> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:15:03 EST >> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] question about electricity >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >> Message-ID: <cb9.3c17dc54.3649b807 at aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> JB, >> >> Yes, what you experienced is static electricity. It wasn't caused by the >> storms, but it is a natural phenomenon that has been discussed previously >> on >> >> this forum many years ago. Your boat is basically a "plastic" boat. You >> have >> >> plastic sails and metal thrown in for good measure. The sails are the >> most >> likely culprit and the fiberglass and the rest of the boat are the >> storage >> battery. The shock is even more noticeable when bare skin is involved, >> like >> a bare >> belly hanging over a rail. That will really get your attention, even when >> drunk. >> >> Rummy >> >> >> In a message dated 11/10/2008 10:57:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> j.bulfer at jbtek.com writes: >> >> >> Went sailing yesterday in somewhat stormy weather. Had a great day. When >> we >> got back to the dock, when you touch the boat, you would get shocked. I >> unhooked the battery & still got shocked. Was it static electricity from >> the >> storm? >> Jb >> >> Jb http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01925.jpeg >> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01927.jpeg >> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01930.jpeg >> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01931.jpeg >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/question-about-electricity-tp20422568p20422568.html >> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to >> http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> >> >> **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all >> other >> Holiday needs. Search Now. >> (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http: >> //searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from >> -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001) >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 10 >> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:20:07 -0800 (PST) >> From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] question about shocking Rhodes 22's >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >> Message-ID: <20423031.post at talk.nabble.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> >> Jay: >> >> You are not the first to experience this! Several years ago, Carol Nixon >> of >> Colorado had that very problem. She does not usually respond to this >> list >> although she is still shown in the digested listing. >> >> You might want to contact her to find out what she did. We referred to >> her >> as lady with shocking Rhodes 22. >> >> I posted pictures of her and her boat last spring. >> >> Ed K >> >> >> >> Just bent wrote: >>> >>> Went sailing yesterday in somewhat stormy weather. Had a great day. When >>> we got back to the dock, when you touch the boat, you would get shocked. >>> I >>> unhooked the battery & still got shocked. Was it static electricity from >>> the storm? >>> Jb >>> >>> Jb http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01925.jpeg >>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01927.jpeg >>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01930.jpeg >>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01931.jpeg >>> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/question-about-electricity-tp20422568p20423031.html >> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 11 >> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:22:46 -0800 (PST) >> From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Sailboats with water in desert... >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >> Message-ID: <20423082.post at talk.nabble.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> >> Imagine, sailboats with water in the desert. Maybe that is where all >> Rummy's >> water is? >> >> Nice pictures. >> >> Ed K >> >> >> >> quote author="Just bent"> >> Went sailing yesterday in somewhat stormy weather. Had a great day. When >> we >> got back to the dock, when you touch the boat, you would get shocked. I >> unhooked the battery & still got shocked. Was it static electricity from >> the >> storm? >> Jb >> >> Jb http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01925.jpeg >> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01927.jpeg >> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01930.jpeg >> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01931.jpeg >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/question-about-electricity-tp20422568p20423082.html >> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 12 >> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:25:00 EST >> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] question about shocking Rhodes 22's >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >> Message-ID: <d4e.3e7b8fe7.3649ba5c at aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> Jay, >> The last time we discussed this, I actually took a volt meter and >> measured >> 22 volts. I took the measurement from the offending rail and grounded the >> negative end to the outboard which was in the water. The meter went to >> 22/23 >> >> volts and then almost instantly disappeared. Waiting a few minutes >> produced >> the >> same results. Since our boats are all 12 volt systems with 110 volt thrown >> in >> occasionally, it ruled out any source within the boat. The amperage was >> really >> low, so it was more of a nuisance shock than anything dangerous. >> >> Rummy >> >> >> In a message dated 11/10/2008 11:20:30 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> ekroposki at charter.net writes: >> >> >> Jay: >> >> You are not the first to experience this! Several years ago, Carol >> Nixon of >> Colorado had that very problem. She does not usually respond to this >> list >> although she is still shown in the digested listing. >> >> You might want to contact her to find out what she did. We referred to >> her >> as lady with shocking Rhodes 22. >> >> I posted pictures of her and her boat last spring. >> >> Ed K >> >> >> >> Just bent wrote: >>> >>> Went sailing yesterday in somewhat stormy weather. Had a great day. >>> When >>> we got back to the dock, when you touch the boat, you would get >>> shocked. I >>> unhooked the battery & still got shocked. Was it static electricity >>> from >>> the storm? >>> Jb >>> >>> Jb http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01925.jpeg >>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01927.jpeg >>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01930.jpeg >>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01931.jpeg >>> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/question-about-electricity-tp20422568p20423031.html >> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to >> http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> >> >> **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all >> other >> Holiday needs. Search Now. >> (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http: >> //searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from >> -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001) >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 13 >> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:25:33 -0800 (PST) >> From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] When you are dealing with Democrats, think >> of this ... >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >> Message-ID: <20423136.post at talk.nabble.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> >> Brad, >> >> When you are dealing with Democrats, think of this: >> >> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/11/09/2008-11-09_councilman_vows >> _to_quit_alcohol_after_pu.html >> >> Ed K >> -- >> View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/When-you-are-d >> ealing-with-Democrats%2C-think-of-this-...-tp20423136p20423136.html >> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 14 >> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:30:42 EST >> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] When you are dealing with Democrats, >> think of this ... >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >> Message-ID: <c61.3c981885.3649bbb2 at aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> Ed, >> Must have been all republicans beneath him. Sure was a waste of a good >> drink >> though. :) >> >> Rummy >> >> >> In a message dated 11/10/2008 11:26:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> ekroposki at charter.net writes: >> >> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/11/09/2008-11-09_councilman_vows >> _to_quit_alcohol_after_pu.html >> >> >> **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all >> other >> Holiday needs. Search Now. >> (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http: >> //searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from >> -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001) >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 15 >> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:46:21 -0800 (PST) >> From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] When you are dealing with Democrats, >> think of this ... >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >> Message-ID: <20423560.post at talk.nabble.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> >> Ed, >> >> Amusing. And you thought democrats don't believe in "Trickle Down >> Economics" >> >> John Shulick >> >> >> >> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/11/09/2008-11-09_councilman_vows >> _to_quit_alcohol_after_pu.html >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/When-you-are-dealing-with-Democrats%2C-think-of-this-...-tp20423136p20423560.html >> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 16 >> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:56:20 EST >> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] (Humor) Banister of Life... >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >> Message-ID: <ca8.39793310.3649c1b4 at aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> As You Slide Down the Banister of Life, Remember: >> >> 1. Jim Baker and Jimmy Swaggert have written an impressive new book. >> It's >> called ......... 'Ministers Do More Than Lay People.' >> >> 2. Transvestite: A guy who likes to eat, drink and be Mary. >> >> 3. The difference between the Pope and your boss, the Pope only expects >> you >> to kiss his ring. >> >> 4. My mind works like lightning, One brilliant flash and it is gone. >> >> 5. The only time the world beats a path to your door is if you're in the >> bathroom. >> >> 6. I hate sex in the movies. Tried it once. The seat folded up, the >> drink >> spilled and that ice, well, it really chilled the mood. >> >> 7. It used to be only death and taxes were inevitable Now, of course, >> there's shipping and handling, too. >> >> 8. A husband is someone who, after taking the trash out, gives the >> impression that he just cleaned the whole house. >> >> 9. My next house will have no kitchen - just vending machines and a >> large >> trash can. >> >> 10. A blonde said, 'I was worried that my mechanic might try to rip me >> off. >> I was relieved when he told me all I needed was turn signal fluid.' >> >> 11. My neighbor was bit by a stray rabid dog. I went to see how he was >> and >> found him writing frantically on a piece of paper. >> I told him rabies could be treated, and he didn't have to worry about a >> Will. >> He said, 'Will? What Will? I'm making a list of the people I want to >> bite.' >> >> 12. Definition of a teenager? God's punishment... for enjoying sex. >> >> 13. As you slide down the banister of life, may the splinters never >> point >> the wrong way. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all >> other >> Holiday needs. Search Now. >> (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http: >> //searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from >> -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001) >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 17 >> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:57:03 -0800 (PST) >> From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] question about shocking Rhodes 22's >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >> Message-ID: <20423781.post at talk.nabble.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> >> Rummy, >> >> Was there a consensus reached about electrical grounding on a sailboat? >> I've >> given the matter some thought and could make an argument either way but >> would appreciate any input from more experienced people such as yourself. >> >> Thank you >> John Shulick >> >> >> R22RumRunner wrote: >>> >>> Jay, >>> The last time we discussed this, I actually took a volt meter and >>> measured >> >>> 22 volts. I took the measurement from the offending rail and grounded >>> the >>> negative end to the outboard which was in the water. The meter went to >>> 22/23 >>> volts and then almost instantly disappeared. Waiting a few minutes >>> produced the >>> same results. Since our boats are all 12 volt systems with 110 volt >>> thrown >>> in >>> occasionally, it ruled out any source within the boat. The amperage was >>> really >>> low, so it was more of a nuisance shock than anything dangerous. >>> >>> Rummy >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 11/10/2008 11:20:30 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, >>> ekroposki at charter.net writes: >>> >>> >>> Jay: >>> >>> You are not the first to experience this! Several years ago, Carol >>> Nixon >>> of >>> Colorado had that very problem. She does not usually respond to this >>> list >>> although she is still shown in the digested listing. >>> >>> You might want to contact her to find out what she did. We referred to >>> her >>> as lady with shocking Rhodes 22. >>> >>> I posted pictures of her and her boat last spring. >>> >>> Ed K >>> >>> >>> >>> Just bent wrote: >>>> >>>> Went sailing yesterday in somewhat stormy weather. Had a great day. >>>> When >>>> we got back to the dock, when you touch the boat, you would get >>>> shocked. >>>> I >>>> unhooked the battery & still got shocked. Was it static electricity >>>> from >>>> the storm? >>>> Jb >>>> >>>> Jb http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01925.jpeg >>>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01927.jpeg >>>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01930.jpeg >>>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01931.jpeg >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> >>> http://www.nabble.com/question-about-electricity-tp20422568p20423031.html >>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>> >>> **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all >>> other >>> Holiday needs. Search Now. >>> >> (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/happy-holidays-from >>> -aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001) >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-question-about-shocking-Rhodes-22%27s-tp20423177p20423781.html >> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 18 >> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:58:09 -0500 >> From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] question about electricity >> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Message-ID: <B61F6996D13A4BA09C617101740CF42D at ebsoffice> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Jb, >> >> The first pic is just fabulous! For an northeast boater, the >> foothills/mountains show that it is not like any water that we sail in >> here >> on the LI Sound. Beautiful - and the water still feels wet and you can >> sail >> on the stuff? Here, boats are hauled and wrapped, the leaves have nearly >> all fallen (we did have one of the prettiest autumns in years) ... Now >> if >> only we could sail on snow! >> >> As far as static electricity accumulating on the hull goes, it is >> probably >> due to the lack of humidity. Just as it occurs on airplanes, the winds >> redistribute electrons, causing a charge to build up on the insulated >> (fiberglass) hull. The simplest way to remedy this is to provide a >> leakage >> path to the water. All conductive metal objects (motor housing, rails, >> mast, rigging, etc.) should be connected together via a small wire (no >> real >> current is involved) and terminated at a fixture that is exposed to the >> water. Care should be taken to make connection to the water away from >> gasoline vapors (not at the motor or mount) and using a "sacrificial >> anode", >> something that you would not miss, as it may be consumed by galvanic >> corrosion in the process of transferring the charge. See >> http://www.boatus.com/boattech/casey/23.htm >> >> The creation of static electricity in this manner has been a real problem >> in >> biking (bicycles) due to the use of nylon suits and composite helmets. >> Some >> people have had good results using antistatic preparations such as fabric >> softeners to solve the problem. While treating the hull with wax >> increases >> the static generation ability, applying fabric softener solutions may >> reduce >> the generated potential, although the combination may cause an unsafe, >> very >> slippery surface. >> >> You need to find a way to harness the potential energy that you have >> created >> rather than just discharge it. How about a static electricity motor - I >> think that John Galt knew something about this ... >> >> Mike >> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81) >> Nissequogue River, NY >> >> From: "Just bent" <j.bulfer at jbtek.com> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 >> 10:56 >> >> AM >>> >>> Went sailing yesterday in somewhat stormy weather. Had a great day. When >>> we >>> got back to the dock, when you touch the boat, you would get shocked. I >>> unhooked the battery & still got shocked. Was it static electricity from >>> the >>> storm? >>> Jb >>> >>> Jb http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01925.jpeg >>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01927.jpeg >>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01930.jpeg >>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01931.jpeg >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> >>> http://www.nabble.com/question-about-electricity-tp20422568p20422568.html >>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go to >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Rhodes22-list mailing list >> Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> >> End of Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 1674, Issue 2 >> ********************************************** >> >> >> **************AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all >> other >> Holiday needs. 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