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From: John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>

Art,
Leave the dam interior alone. Some of us don't want our lady friends to get 
 too damn comfortable on our boats. Perhaps you like spending more time 
with  yours than I do mine. An afternoon once or twice a year is sufficient. 
The  remainder of the time is spend with da boys doing real sailing.

Rummy

In a message dated 4/13/2009 12:25:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
czerwonky at earthlink.net writes:

John,

I'm not sure I am bold enough to alter the compression  post, but your 
venture into this unknown arena will learn us all.  Your  project could be a 
tremendous incentive for many of us to tailor the boat to  their needs.  My 
wife has been 'discouraged' by the interior space  limitations.  Use of the 
table insert in the cabin was marginal. It  didn't mollify her cramped feeling 
to sleep in the v-berth, just too difficult  to move around.  The ladies are 
much more sensitive to this than we are,  but can make the cruise 
'happening' either very enjoyable or very  miserable.

Our take - with the full bed deployed in the cabin (table  top setup, 
non-enclosed head) it is most difficuly moving to and using the  pottie, however 
it is configured.  Using the v-berth for sleeping, with  pottie behind the 
bulkhead, negotiating the midnight mission is no  easier.  I typically don't 
get up, based on sound prior strategic  planning, but the ladies must be 
somehow different.  

Thoughts:  

The dynamic and static loads in our mast rig are mostly downward and  
carried by the compression post, wood or metal.  There is probably some  lateral 
stiffening provided by the starboard divider bulkhead although not  heavy 
duty I imagine.  Stan would have insights into this.  There is  a twisting 
action on the cross-section, maybe not of significance.  You  may know that the 
new "enclosed head" layout on the new newer boats is very  'open' with the 
sliding window hatch on the bunk side (ergo little lateral  stiffening), so 
I don't think Stan is concerned with any loading on the boat  except the 
vertical loads transmitted thru the compression post.  I would  appreciate his 
sage advice.

My resolution looks like this, suitable for  porta potty equipped - like 
yours, have a v-berth extension board, full width,  sectioned and hinged, to 
rest on supports throughout, making a respectable  bunking area for two.  
Additionally, cut and frame a window in the  bulkhead for ventilation, light, 
and access.  We need to get our ladies  more enthusiastic about cruising more 
that a night or weekend.  This is a  major reason I make the BR, which, 
btw, had a nice redo in both full and PTE  models.

Inputs welcome,

Art
s/v Mary Jane
Atlanta/St.  Pete

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