Jay,
The gas with the ethanol is not the E85. The normal gas you buy at the pump 
 has 10 percent ethanol added. If you were to put E95 in your outboard, I 
can  assure you it would destroy it. E85 is 85% ethanol and 15% gasoline. I 
have a  pickup with an engine designed to run E85 and I love it. No problems 
to date. I  just wish they would take the 15% gasoline out so I could drink 
it.
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 6/12/2009 9:42:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
jsail1 at verizon.net writes:

Frone,
Thinking about you guys, but, alas, "in the same  boat"-engine problems  
on my 2001 Yam 9.9. Had carb rebuilt and still  stalled. Mechanic  
showed me the bowl of the carb was being eaten up  by ethanol. Hope we  
can stop E85. Meanwhile not much sailing, still  trying to solve it.

Anyhow, the Rhodies of LBI are alive and well.  Tomorrow we have our  
annual Father's Day (read the calendar wrong)  get together of Bill  
Effros, Mel Rothbard, and possibly Rob Baldi,  all of us long time R22  
owners minimum 10-20 years worth. Ben could  be an easy joiner if we  
give him enough notice??? Even if we get you  and Andy to visit, it  
would be good. Jody and i are trying to work  our schedule out as her  
place is rented for 4 or 5 weeks. We'll talk  soon.

Jay
s/v Wanderlust

On Jun 12, 2009, at 2:16 PM,  FCrawford0707 at aol.com wrote:

>
> Ben - We purchased Sunday  Morning from GB in '94 and spent a lot of  
> time chewing over  possible names.? (I'm a bird-watcher, so I ran a  
> bunch of such  names up the flagpole ( Osprey, Willet, etc. ) but  
> Andy, my  wife,? wasn't sold.)? We chose Sunday Morning in the end  
>  primarily because we thought it sounded pretty nice out loud - who   
> can account for taste ?!!?? I see that you are a North Jersey guy  -  
> I have from time to time thought that the NJ Rhodies should  work on  
> a Chessie - style rendezvous - maybe somewhere along  LBI, as it is  
> roughly in the middle ( we are in Avalon and we  sometimes cross  
> paths with a Rhodie from Sea Isle and another  from Stone Harbor -  
> don't know who they are, tho').? Maybe Jay  can entice us to LBI  
> sometime.?
> ?????? Frone (not a  typo) Crawford
> ?????? s/v Sunday  Morning
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: BenCittadino  <bencittadino at gmail.com>
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>  Sent: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:19 am
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] yamaha  9.9  trouble
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Thanks Folks;
>
> I actually think the engine may be flopping  around too much back  
> there.
> We'll see. Art came up with  an idea that I think may help with the  
> stalling
> out  issue. The gas cap/vent may be plugged/too tight causing a  
>  vacuum to
> build up in the tank. I like that explanation as it fits the  facts  
> (smooth
> operation, stall, and easy restart), and  is CHEAP to fix.
>
> Frone (is that right, or a typo?) I like your  boat name. Is that  
> "Sunday
> Morning" as in "Easy like  a...", or as in Charles Osgood (my wife  
> works for
> CBS),  or something else?
>
> Ben
>
>
>
> Ron  Singerman-2 wrote:
>>
>> Ben,
>>
>> After  you get the cover repaired  ( I second Dave's repair method)   
>> you
>> might
>> want to make sure that the  tension adjustment for the movement of the
>> motor
>> is  not to tight. It sounds like this might have been the culprit.    
>> I also
>> agree that the only time I use my tiller to  motor hook-up is when I  
>> am
>> backing out of my  slip and exiting the marina and when returning,  
>> in  the
>> marina.
>>
>> Fair  winds,
>>
>>>> ron<<
>> S/V  Serenity
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: "David Bradley" <dwbrad at gmail.com>
>> To: "The Rhodes 22  Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday,  June 10, 2009 10:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] yamaha 9.9  trouble
>>
>>
>> Ben, unless it's a major crack, I  would think it's easier to repair
>> the cover (assuming yours is  fiberglass like mine) than to buy a new
>> cover and mount the  bracket for the steering mechanism.  I would  
>>  epoxy
>> it from inside, taping the outside to be sure the epoxy  doesn't leak
>> through.  If it's a major crack you could  reinforce it with  
>> fiberglass
>> cloth  inside.  All available at West Marine or another marine  supply
>> place, along with free advice on which materials to  buy.  Others on
>> the list can be more prescriptive, I'm  sure.
>>
>> While you're messing with the steering  attahment, be sure all the  
>> nuts
>> and bolts are  secure.  My mechanishm fell apart one day at a crucial
>> moment  just from a nut working its way loose.  It wasn't  pretty.
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>>  Dave
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:27 PM,  BenCittadino<bencittadino at gmail.com>
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks John and Dave for the really  quick and eminently sensible  
>>>  replies.
>>>
>>> Dave, I'm afraid the answer to your  question is that the cover is  
>>> cracked
>>>  and I should probably replace (can I?) or repair (dare I?) it.  I'm
>>> concerned
>>> about whether I can relocate the  little attachment "dohicky" on  
>>> top of a
>>>  new
>>> cover for the bar connecting the tiller to the engine, but  also  
>>> don't
>>> know
>>> if a  repair of the cover is even possible. I like your idea of   
>>> only using
>>> the connection for really tight  quarters. If I ever get it fixed  
>>> that's
>>>  what
>>> I'll do.
>>>
>>>  Ben
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> David  Bradley wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ben, it sounds like a  similar problem I had my first year with my
>>>> Yamaha 9.9. I  finally had to bite the bullet and have a good  
>>>>  mechanic
>>>> clean the jets. You might luck out by using fresh  gas (one mechanic
>>>> told me this year that with the new  ethanol mix we should use fresh
>>>> gas every week) and just  running the motor until the clean gas
>>>> dissolves the  crud.
>>>>
>>>> I only use the tiller-motor  linkage in the marina for tight turns  
>>>>  and
>>>> damage avoidance. The boat steers much easier with the  motor  
>>>> locked -
>>>> much less strain  on everything.
>>>>
>>>> Are you saying your  engine case has actually cracked, or you're
>>>> worried it  might?
>>>>
>>>>  Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun  10, 2009 at 4:36 PM, BenCittadino<bencittadino at gmail.com  
>>>> >
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So the S/V Susan Kay  (93R-recycled08) is in the water for the  
>>>>> next  4
>>>>> months
>>>>> after a winter in a  cradle. She started right up and ran  
>>>>>  magnificently
>>>>> for
>>>>> about a half  an hour as we motored the few miles out the  
>>>>>  Shrewsbury
>>>>> River
>>>>> (NJ) around  to Sandy Hook Bay where she has a slip. However, as we
>>>>>  cruised
>>>>> along at medium to low power (fog & rain)  the four stroke 9.9  
>>>>>  Yamaha
>>>>> began
>>>>> to die, fought  alittle to keep running and quit. Attempt to  
>>>>>  restart
>>>>> (electrical) immediately succeeded, and she  ran beautifully for  
>>>>> ten
>>>>>  minutes
>>>>> then sputtered and quit again. She restarted  on the first push  
>>>>> of  the
>>>>> button, but died once more before we got her  safely tied up in her
>>>>> slip.
>>>>>  I'm
>>>>> at a loss except to say the gas was from last  summer with plenty  
>>>>> of
>>>>>  Stay-bil. The engine had an oil change and was prepped by the   
>>>>> marina
>>>>> where  I
>>>>> stored her over the winter. They weren't worried  about the gas (I
>>>>> asked).
>>>>> Why  would she start like a champ, purr like a kitten, then   
>>>>> sputter and
>>>>>  die
>>>>> only to restart  immediately?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm also becoming  concerned about the engine cover cracking some  
>>>>>  as it
>>>>> appears the attachment to the tiller is  stressing the cover (I'm  
>>>>>  trying
>>>>> to
>>>>> be gentle). I'm  considering locking the engine along the  
>>>>>  centerline and
>>>>> steering with the rudder  alone.
>>>>>
>>>>> As a rookie sailor I  must say I get a small charge out of the  
>>>>>  bridge
>>>>> tender
>>>>> answering my  call on channel 13 by calling me "Captain", but I'm   
>>>>> told I
>>>>>  am
>>>>> easily entertained. Looking forward to a great  summer, but  
>>>>> considering
>>>>>  chucking the motor altogether.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Any thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>>  BenCittadino
>>>>> Highlands, NJ
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