Saroj,
 
I was wondering if you were still hanging out at the bar. How goes things  
and where are you at these days?
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 11/15/2009 9:27:58 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
saroj at pathfind.net writes:

Very  well put, Bob.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Keller"  <r22yankeeclipper at hotmail.com>
To:  <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 8:49  PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor  lift


>
> Caesar,
>
> Since my name was  invoked, I'll weigh in.  I still harbor some thoughts 
of 
> owning  a bigger boat.  What is keeping me from that is not money - it is 
 
> practicality.  I think a larger boat would be great because you  could go 
> on extended trips - weeks, months - and be very  comfortable.  Sounds 
> great, but I can't get that much time off  work to do that until I retire 
> so all a large boat would do for me is  increase my cost of ownership and 
> tie me to my home waters.   With the R-22 I have a boat that I can go on 
> one-week trips almost  anywhere I want to trailer it and be very 
> comfortable.  I say  one week trips because we have determined that one 
> week is about the  max for us to live on the boat.  After a week, we both 
> are ready  to move ashore.  But for that week, the R-22 is very 
>  comfortable, sails great and we can trailer it with ease.  We can take 
it  
> to South Florida for some great sailing trips that would otherwise be  
> impossible.
>
>
>
> I have considered a  larger trailerable boat but my conclusion after 
> looking at all of  them is that they are either too difficult and too 
large 
> to trailer  with ease, or they employ water ballast (which has some 
> potential  issues), or both.  I've considered the MacGregor, the Seaward, 
>  the Hunter Edge and the Telstar 28 Trimaran.  (The Telstar is a pretty  
> awesome boat, but it is large and heavy.)  These each have their  good 
> points, but they are all much larger and much heavier than the  Rhodes 
and 
> bring with them many complications with trailering  them.  I've got my 
> trailering with my R-22 down pretty well and  it is a simple process 
(after 
> 8 years of practice).  These  others would be multiple degrees of 
> complications by  comparison.
>
>
>
> I would also love to have a larger  boat, but again if you don't have 
> months off work and a willing  partner to take months-long trips, it will 
> probably just sit at the  dock.  After I am retired I might get a 35' 
> Beneteau or Pacific  Seacraft or something similar but then again maybe 
> not.  The  cost of ownership would be 3-4 times what I have now, but I 
> could go  off on voyages for months at a time.  Not sure yet but will 
have 
>  to see when the time comes.  If my wife does not want to go off for  
months 
> at a time on sailboat trips then I'll just stay with the  R-22.
>
>
>
> Right now I put my sailboat in the water  from Oct-Dec and then again 
from 
> March-June and in the summer use a  powerboat (too hot to sail in the 
> summer in S. Georgia) for trips to  the beach.  If I had a larger boat I 
> would be paying dockage  year-round plus annual bottom jobs.
>
>
>
> Last point  is regarding the motor - I took Rummy's advice and bought an 
8 
> hp  Tohatsu - 2 stroke, electric start with an alternator.  Only weighs  
> 50-something lbs.  The motor is extremely reliable as it starts  every 
> time.  It's loud and uses more fuel but it is  dependable.  With 6 gallon 
> fuel tanks, I can motor for 8 hours  on a tank and usually have two tanks 
> on board.  Not an issue  even when I have to motor a lot on occasion.  
Also 
> the coast of  GA has very strong currents and 8-9 foot tides so it is a 
> challenge  to handle this with a small OB motor.  The 8hp does a pretty 
>  good job with this - I don't believe that a 9.9hp would be any better at 
 
> all so this motor is a great choice for this  boat.
>
>
>
> And that's all I have to say about  that...
>
> Bob  K
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>>  Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:19:04 -0500
>> From:  czerwonky at earthlink.net
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift
>>
>>  Caesar,
>>
>> Totally agree with Rummy. This boat is a dream  to sail and maintain - 
it 
>> also has alot of additional capability  with dollars and effort. You 
have 
>> the perfect option for best  'real' sailing, even pocket cruising 
>> experience. Ask Bob Keller  sometime.
>>
>> Art
>>
>> -----Original  Message-----
>> >From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
>> >Sent:  Nov 11, 2009 11:53 AM
>> >To:  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now  electric motor lift
>> >
>> >Caesar,
>>  >Beware of the bigger boat envy. I know many people that have been on  
the
>> >list that made the move to bigger boats. Many came back to  the Rhodes 
>> >and the
>> > others wish they could.  Sail with friends if they have bigger boats, 
>> > but  I
>> > like to single hand whenever possible. Bigger boats require  crew and 
>> > then
>> > you are stuck sailing on  their schedules or not sailing at all. 
That's 
>> >  why
>> >you see many bigger boats that stay tied up at the dock  year after year
>> >and never go out.
>> >
>>  >Rummy
>> >
>> >
>> >In a message dated  11/10/2009 5:22:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>  >caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com writes:
>> >
>> >Thanks  Rummy.
>> >For two more horsepower than you, I'm carrying  approximately 50 more 
lbs
>> >with electric start.  Hmm.
>> >
>> >My sailing skill and practice presently  does not allow me to recognize 
>> >the
>> >difference  that extra weight makes. Once the boat is moving because of
>>  >the wind I'm happy. If and when I start racing however, it  may.
>> >
>> >I hope by the time I"m ready for a new  motor, I'm also ready for a much
>> >bigger boat.
>>  >
>> >Caesar
>> >Gentle Breeze
>>  >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>  >________________________________
>> >From:  "R22RumRunner at aol.com" <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
>>  >
>> >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> >Sent: Tue,  November 10, 2009 1:40:00 AM
>> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now  electric motor lift
>> >
>> >Caesar,
>>  >The motor is a 8 BHP Tohatsu, 2 stroke without electric start. It's  
easy
>> >to
>> >start with just half of a pull. It's  slightly louder than a four stroke
>> >and burns a little more  gas, but I love it. Two thirds throttle will 
>>  >bring
>> >the boat to hull speed around 6 mph. I have never  been at a lack for
>> >power,
>> >even in high winds  and heavy waves.
>> >
>> >Rummy
>>  >
>> >
>> >In a message dated 11/9/2009 3:48:09  P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> >caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com  writes:
>> >
>> >Rummy,
>> >
>>  >48 lbs! What's the horsepower of that motor, and how well does it  move
>> >Rum Runner? On a lake you don't have current to deal  with, but at 48 
lbs
>> >you
>> >are making us with 100  lbs plus motor think we are carrying excess wait
>> >and  horsepower.
>> >
>> >Caesar
>>  >
>> >
>> >
>>  >________________________________
>> >From:  "R22RumRunner at aol.com" <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
>> >To:  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> >Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009  10:05:01 AM
>> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor  lift
>> >
>> >Lee,
>> >>From the photos  I don't see anything that looks unusual. You may have
>>  >found
>> >the answer yourself. An electric winch motor draws a  lot of amperage.
>> >Your
>> >battery needs to be  fully charged and fresh for it to provide 
sufficient
>> >power to  operate the lift. I don't see that 135 lbs would be to much
>>  >weight
>> >for the lift motor, but then my Tohatsu weighs in  at a hefty 48 pounds.
>> >Try
>> >spraying a little  WD40 on the underside of the lift belt.
>> >
>>  >Rummy
>> >
>> >
>> >In a message dated  11/9/2009 10:38:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> >LKUHN at cnmc.org  writes:
>> >
>>  >http://old.nabble.com/file/p26268434/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B020.jpg
>>  >
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