Matt,
Stan is a very busy boat builder. This list will afford you the opportunity 
 to get "FREE" advice from owners, both past and present. This information 
is  totally FREE. In fact, we probably have more knowledge about the R22 
than the  builder. Stan spends most of his time building the boats for us and 
we spend  more time actually sailing.
I think if Stan would spend more time sailing and less time talking with  
prospective or current owners, he might have a better disposition. Drinking  
might also help him out. I know it does wonders for me.
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 8/23/2010 12:13:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
matthewporter27 at gmail.com writes:

Hi  All,

In the effort to provide a newcomer's perspective, I'd like to  point out
that new owners may be unaware that such a debate has been taking  place.  
As
the (broke) new owner of an inherited boat, the cost of a  Certificate is
prohibitive, but I would be more than happy to pay for the  time of an
experienced and knowledgeable Rhodes builder (or even Rhodes  captain) on an
hourly basis.

And to comment on Elle's response from  the other thread, there is a
difference between explaining a business  policy and chastizing a potential
customer (or any person for that matter)  for asking a question without
knowing the complex history of the  answer.

An hourly fee for sage advice would help in two areas.   First, the newcomer
may not have any knowledge of how the company operates,  or its plan of
succession.  The Certificate may be valid for a  lifetime of sailing, but as
with any small business, the question of who  will be there in the future to
provide that advice is important.   Second, as with many pay-as-you-go
scenarios, the customer often recognizes  the true value of the expert's
time, and may realize what a deal the  Certificate represents.

Oh, and to give a brief summary of my first few  months with our boat: she's
beautiful and functional; great for the Severn  River; perfect for a new
sailor/captain; and she sure can take a whack on  the bow pulpit/anchor.

Matt Porter
'95/recycled  '02



On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Charles Nieman  
<blue66corvette at hotmail.com

> wrote:

>
> Thanks for  the explaination ....
> not planning on selling anytime soon  ....
> after all I have only had the boat 15 years ....
> still  breaking it in!
>
> > From: stan at rhodes22.com
> >  Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:16:28 -0400
> > To:  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 82  Rhodes22 for sale
> >
> > Charles,
> >
> >  it's a phasing-in consideration.
> >
> > 15 years and you  become a pet
> > But when and if you go to sell your boat privately,  that is a new ball
> game.
> >
> > Of course you can  do as you like, and so can we. So if you elect to 
sell
> your boat  privately without going with the C of S program, and tell the
> buyer to  call us anytime at home or at the plant, if they have any
> questions,  from now on we are simply going to re-direct them back to you.
>  >
> > We think the C of S it is a win, win solution to a growing  problem and
> recommend it to private sellers and private buyers. We  know some still 
think
> we are nuts to expect residuals since a boat is  not a book or a song or a
> copyrighted photograph, so we continue to be  willing to debate this tired
> issue with any takers.
>  >
> > ss/gbi
> >
> > On Aug 23, 2010, at 9:36  AM, Charles Nieman wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >  Stan
> > > Since I bought a recycled boat from you (albeit fifteen  years ago) 
does
> that mean I have "Certificate of Support" now?.....  doe sthe response and
> attention you have been giving me represent what  can be expected with 
said
> certificate?
> > >
> >  >> From: stan at rhodes22.com
> > >> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010  11:30:46 -0400
> > >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>  > >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] 82 Rhodes22 for sale
> >  >>
> > >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
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> >  >>
> > >> On Aug 20, 2010, at 8:15 PM, bobmellor  wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>
> >  >>> I am going to be selling a Rhodes22.. (I currently have  two...
> selling one,
> > >>> keeping one)
>  > >>>
> > >>> 1982 Rhodes22
> >  >>> standard mast (not IMF)
> > >>> single axle  triad trailer
> > >>> ready to sail
> >  >>> located in eastern PA
> > >>> if interested in  purchasing, email rhm at bobmellor.com and I'll get
> back to
> >  >>> you w/ more detail.
> > >>>
> >  >>> (I need to look thru archives to get latest on how to get Stan's  
new
> "cert
> > >>> of support" for buyer)
>  > >>>
> > >>> Bob Mellor
> >  >>> --
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