C
 
Battery goes forward under the V berth. Weight forward.
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 11/18/2010 11:36:35 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
blue66corvette at hotmail.com writes:


So  where are you supposed to put your battery .... currently I don't have 
one of  those either, but I was planning on getting one

C

> From:  mweisner at ebsmed.com
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Date: Thu,  18 Nov 2010 11:26:11 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] gas tank in  laz
> 
> Rummy,
> 
> Your mileage not withstanding,  your practice constitutes an unsafe 
condition. Please review the USCG site  http://www.uscgboating.org/
regulations/boatbuilder_s_handbook/vent_partg.aspx  with particular attention to the 
following portion:
> Portable Fuel  Tanks
> Compartments used to store vented portable fuel tanks or  containers are 
required to be equipped with natural ventilation.
>  
> Cockpit seat lockers in auxiliary sailboats are often used as fuel  tank 
compartments for portable outboard motor fuel tanks. If this fuel tank  
vents into the locker, then natural ventilation of this locker is  required.
> 
> Since fuel vapors seek the lowest point of any  compartment, gasoline 
vapors should be considered when designing and  constructing a compartment that 
will contain a fuel tank or container that  vents into a compartment. Any 
openings in or near the bottom of the  compartment could permit explosive 
vapors to flow into the bilge of the boat  where an ignition source might 
ignite the vapors.
> 
> The  "natural ventilation" must consist of:
> 
> (1) supply opening(s)  or duct(s) from the atmosphere or from a 
> ventilated compartment or  from a compartment that is ventilated
> to the atmosphere;
>  and
> 
> (2) exhaust opening(s) into another ventilated  compartment or exhaust 
> duct(s) to the atmosphere.
> 
>  Each supply opening must be located on the exterior surface of the  boat:
> "Open to the atmosphere" means a compartment that has at least  15 square 
inches of open area directly exposed to the atmosphere for each  cubic foot 
of net compartment volume. The underseat space meets this  requirement 
while the laz space has insufficient ventilation and connects with  the cabin 
interior and bilge through wiring channels. These ventilation  requirements 
also apply to batteries that emit hydrogen gas during charging  (solar or 
otherwise) in confined spaces.
> For those who are interested,  the site also provides links to pdfs of 
the Boatbuilder's Handbook for  download. 
> 
> A simpler version entitled "Safety Standards for  Backyard Boat Builders" 
which I have found very useful over the years is  available at:
> 
>  
http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/education_safety/safety/boatwater/backyardboatbuilders.pdf
>  
> Please err on the side of safety. Don't play around with lives. Many  of 
these rules were established after an avoidable accident.
> 
>  Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From:  <R22RumRunner at aol.com> Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:15 AM
> >  Charles,
> > Relax. I kept my fuel tank in the lazzerette for almost  twenty years. 
I 
> > moved it only after I installed the electric  motor lift which places 
an 
> > electric motor (sparks) in the lazz.  The hatch cover for the lazz is 
not air 
> > tight and if you look  under both seats you will see large openings 
which 
> > provide  adequate ventilation. People on the list were worried that I 
was going to  
> > blow myself up, but as you can see, I'm still intact. I used to  drink 
like 
> > crazy and smoked cigars and cigarettes.......all at  the same time and 
> > never had a problem with gas fumes.
>  > 
> > Rummy
> > 
> > 
> > In a message  dated 11/18/2010 9:08:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> >  blue66corvette at hotmail.com writes:
> > 
> > 
> > I  sail in teh suburbs of Dallas, Texas ..... I think I am the only 
Rhodie  
> > in these parts so you probably won't even hear the  explosion......I 
do't 
> > have propane on the boat, I am guessing  that would be for a stove? I 
don't 
> > have one of those  either.
> > 
> > Thanks for the education, I will gfive some  thought to moving the tank.
> > 
> > Charles
> >  s/v Blue Feather
> > 84 R 22 ... recycled 96
> > 
>  >> From: mweisner at ebsmed.com
> >> To:  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:53:59  -0500
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reintroduction - Now gas  tank in laz
> >> 
> >> It depends on how far away from  here you sail your Rhodes ...
> >> 
> >> Basically,  fuel vapors that accumulate can be fairly explosive. Since 
> > the  
> >> laz is not ventilated, it is not a great place to store  gasoline. I 
have 
> >> always stored a 6 gal tank under the  cockpit seat without a problem 
> > where at 
> >> least  the fumes (lighter than air) would not be trapped.
> >> 
>  >> BTW, where do you store your propane (heavier than air)? Please do  
not 
> >> store it in the cabin.
> >> 
>  >> Where do you sail,again?
> >> 
> >>  Mike
> >> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> >> Nissequogue  River, NY
> >> 
> >> ----- Original Message -----  
> >> From: "Charles Nieman"  <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
> >> To: "Rhodes List"  <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Sent: Thursday, November  18, 2010 8:42 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]  Reintroduction
> >> 
> >> 
> >>  >
> >> > I don't know about all that political stuff .....  but what's this 
> > about 
> >> > keeping your gas  tank in tha lazerette????? That is where I have 
> > always 
>  >> > kept mine .... is this a problem????
> >>  >
> >> > Charles
> >> >
> >>  >> From: benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com
> >> >>  To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >> >> Date: Thu, 18 Nov  2010 06:40:39 -0600
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]  Reintroduction
> >> >>
> >> >> We are  overdue for some angry -- or at least passionate rants. 
> > Thoughts  
> >> >> on
> >> >> midterm elections?  Sarah Palin's book tour? Did dinosaurs really 
> > exist?
>  >> >> Do you prefer Bicardi to Mount Gay? Isn't anyone at least  keeping 
> > their 
> >> >> gas
> >>  >> tank in the lazerette?
> >> >>
> >>  >> Watching and waiting from BR,
> >> >>
>  >> >> Ben
> >> >>
> >>  >>
> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>  >> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >> >>  [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Geoff 
Farrell
>  >> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 12:39
> >>  >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >> >> Subject: Re:  [Rhodes22-list] Reintroduction
> >> >>
> >>  >> Thank God... on both counts.
> >> >>
>  >> >> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:28 PM,  <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >>  >> > Mike.
> >> >> > Welcome back to the list. A  while back we had to have a 
separation 
> > of
> >>  >> > sailing from politics. The political people left the list and  
> > started
> >> >> their
> >>  >> > own
> >> >> > social network list. The  sailors and most of the drunks are 
still 
> > here.
> >>  >> >
> >> >> > Rummy
> >> >>  >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > In a  message dated 11/16/2010 3:07:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> >>  >> > michael.4591 at gmail.com writes:
> >> >>  >
> >> >> > By way of a reintroduction I am Mike  Corley, a loyal Rhodes 
owner 
> > since
> >> >>  > 1996. I have not been active on the list in several years. It is
>  >> >> > definitely a lot quieter now than it used to be. Sort  of miss 
the
> >> >> barroom
> >> >> >  mentality of the old list.
> >> >> > I have owned two  Rhodes, the first was a new 96 model I bought 
from
> >> >>  > Stan and then after returning from Europe Stan made me a great 
deal  
> > and 
> >> >> > I
> >> >>  > traded it in on a slightly used and upgraded 99 Rhodes in 2000, 
but  
> >> >> > that
> >> >> > is
>  >> >> > another story. I like to tell people that I liked the  boat so 
much I
> >> >> > bought
> >> >>  > it twice. I still take the boat back to GB in Edenton, NC when 
it  
> > needs
> >> >> > work which is infrequently.  Stan and GB is the most honest 
business 
> > I
> >>  >> > have
> >> >> > ever dealt with and they  still do good work!
> >> >> > I just recently retired  from the Army after 30 years of service. 
I
> >> >> >  retired from Fort Monroe, Va and now live in Smithfield, Va at 
the
>  >> >> > intersection of the Pagan and James Rivers. I keep my  boat at 
the 
> > Old
> >> >> > Point
>  >> >> > Comfort Marina at Ft Monroe in Hampton, Va which is  about 22 
miles 
> > from
> >> >> > Smithfield.  My children are grown now so I primarily singlehand 
> > which  
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > easy to do  in a Rhodes. I have enjoyed sailing the Southern 
> >  Chesapeake
> >> >> > for
> >> >> >  the last four years. Previously I have sailed my Rhodes out of 
> >  Middle
> >> >> > River
> >> >> >  near Baltimore, Newbern, NC on the Neuse river, and Washington 
DC 
>  > on 
> >> >> > the
> >> >> >  Potomac River. As all of you will agree, the Rhodes is a great 
> >  costal
> >> >> and
> >> >> > inland  pocket cruiser!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >  Mike Corley
> >> >> > S/V Ranger
> >>  >> > 99 Rhodes
> >> >> > Hampton Roads,  Va
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