In a message dated 11/18/2010 11:51:38 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
blue66corvette at hotmail.com writes:


OK  ... I do find a spot that is battery shapped there ... but someone 
needs to  tell Stan. When I bought the boat he had the battery nicely strapped 
to a  shelf in the laz. I only took it out when it needed replacing and the 
solar  charger quit working. No electrical on the boat anyway so have not 
replaced  it.

C

> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> Date: Thu, 18 Nov  2010 11:39:16 -0500
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject:  Re: [Rhodes22-list] gas tank in laz
> 
> C
> 
>  Battery goes forward under the V berth. Weight forward.
> 
>  Rummy
> 
> 
> In a message dated 11/18/2010 11:36:35 A.M.  Eastern Standard Time, 
> blue66corvette at hotmail.com writes:
>  
> 
> So where are you supposed to put your battery .... currently  I don't 
have 
> one of those either, but I was planning on getting  one
> 
> C
> 
> > From: mweisner at ebsmed.com
>  > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010  11:26:11 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] gas tank in  laz
> > 
> > Rummy,
> > 
> > Your mileage  not withstanding, your practice constitutes an unsafe 
> condition.  Please review the USCG site http://www.uscgboating.org/
>  regulations/boatbuilder_s_handbook/vent_partg.aspx with particular 
attention  to the 
> following portion:
> > Portable Fuel Tanks
>  > Compartments used to store vented portable fuel tanks or containers 
are  
> required to be equipped with natural ventilation.
> >  
> > Cockpit seat lockers in auxiliary sailboats are often used as  fuel 
tank 
> compartments for portable outboard motor fuel tanks. If  this fuel tank 
> vents into the locker, then natural ventilation of  this locker is 
required.
> > 
> > Since fuel vapors seek the  lowest point of any compartment, gasoline 
> vapors should be considered  when designing and constructing a 
compartment that 
> will contain a  fuel tank or container that vents into a compartment. Any 
> openings in  or near the bottom of the compartment could permit explosive 
> vapors  to flow into the bilge of the boat where an ignition source might 
>  ignite the vapors.
> > 
> > The "natural ventilation" must  consist of:
> > 
> > (1) supply opening(s) or duct(s) from  the atmosphere or from a 
> > ventilated compartment or from a  compartment that is ventilated
> > to the atmosphere;
> >  and
> > 
> > (2) exhaust opening(s) into another ventilated  compartment or exhaust 
> > duct(s) to the atmosphere.
> >  
> > Each supply opening must be located on the exterior surface of  the 
boat:
> > "Open to the atmosphere" means a compartment that has  at least 15 
square 
> inches of open area directly exposed to the  atmosphere for each cubic 
foot 
> of net compartment volume. The  underseat space meets this requirement 
> while the laz space has  insufficient ventilation and connects with the 
cabin 
> interior and  bilge through wiring channels. These ventilation 
requirements 
> also  apply to batteries that emit hydrogen gas during charging (solar or 
>  otherwise) in confined spaces.
> > For those who are interested, the  site also provides links to pdfs of 
> the Boatbuilder's Handbook for  download. 
> > 
> > A simpler version entitled "Safety  Standards for Backyard Boat 
Builders" 
> which I have found very useful  over the years is available at:
> > 
> > 
>  
http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/education_safety/safety/boatwater/backyardboatbuilders.pdf
>  > 
> > Please err on the side of safety. Don't play around with  lives. Many 
of 
> these rules were established after an avoidable  accident.
> > 
> > Mike
> > s/v Shanghai'd Summer  ('81)
> > Nissequogue River, NY
> > 
> > 
>  > 
> > 
> > 
> > From:  <R22RumRunner at aol.com> Thursday, November 18, 2010 10:15 AM
> >  > Charles,
> > > Relax. I kept my fuel tank in the lazzerette  for almost twenty 
years. 
> I 
> > > moved it only after I  installed the electric motor lift which places 
> an 
> > >  electric motor (sparks) in the lazz. The hatch cover for the lazz is 
>  not air 
> > > tight and if you look under both seats you will see  large openings 
> which 
> > > provide adequate ventilation.  People on the list were worried that I 
> was going to 
> >  > blow myself up, but as you can see, I'm still intact. I used to 
drink  
> like 
> > > crazy and smoked cigars and  cigarettes.......all at the same time 
and 
> > > never had a  problem with gas fumes.
> > > 
> > > Rummy
>  > > 
> > > 
> > > In a message dated 11/18/2010  9:08:19 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> > >  blue66corvette at hotmail.com writes:
> > > 
> > >  
> > > I sail in teh suburbs of Dallas, Texas ..... I think I am  the only 
> Rhodie 
> > > in these parts so you probably  won't even hear the explosion......I 
> do't 
> > > have  propane on the boat, I am guessing that would be for a stove? I 
> don't  
> > > have one of those either.
> > > 
> >  > Thanks for the education, I will gfive some thought to moving the  
tank.
> > > 
> > > Charles
> > > s/v Blue  Feather
> > > 84 R 22 ... recycled 96
> > > 
>  > >> From: mweisner at ebsmed.com
> > >> To:  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > >> Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010  08:53:59 -0500
> > >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]  Reintroduction - Now gas tank in laz
> > >> 
> >  >> It depends on how far away from here you sail your Rhodes ...
>  > >> 
> > >> Basically, fuel vapors that accumulate  can be fairly explosive. 
Since 
> > > the 
> > >>  laz is not ventilated, it is not a great place to store gasoline. I 
>  have 
> > >> always stored a 6 gal tank under the cockpit seat  without a problem 
> > > where at 
> > >> least the  fumes (lighter than air) would not be trapped.
> > >> 
>  > >> BTW, where do you store your propane (heavier than air)? Please  do 
> not 
> > >> store it in the cabin.
> >  >> 
> > >> Where do you sail,again?
> > >>  
> > >> Mike
> > >> s/v Shanghai'd Summer  ('81)
> > >> Nissequogue River, NY
> > >>  
> > >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >>  From: "Charles Nieman" <blue66corvette at hotmail.com>
> >  >> To: "Rhodes List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >  >> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2010 8:42 AM
> > >>  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reintroduction
> > >> 
>  > >> 
> > >> >
> > >> > I don't  know about all that political stuff ..... but what's this 
> > >  about 
> > >> > keeping your gas tank in tha lazerette?????  That is where I have 
> > > always 
> > >> >  kept mine .... is this a problem????
> > >> >
> >  >> > Charles
> > >> >
> > >>  >> From: benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com
> > >>  >> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > >> >> Date:  Thu, 18 Nov 2010 06:40:39 -0600
> > >> >> Subject: Re:  [Rhodes22-list] Reintroduction
> > >> >>
> >  >> >> We are overdue for some angry -- or at least passionate  rants. 
> > > Thoughts 
> > >> >> on
>  > >> >> midterm elections? Sarah Palin's book tour? Did  dinosaurs 
really 
> > > exist?
> > >> >> Do  you prefer Bicardi to Mount Gay? Isn't anyone at least 
keeping 
> >  > their 
> > >> >> gas
> > >> >>  tank in the lazerette?
> > >> >>
> > >>  >> Watching and waiting from BR,
> > >> >>
>  > >> >> Ben
> > >> >>
> >  >> >>
> > >> >> -----Original  Message-----
> > >> >> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > >> >>  [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Geoff 
>  Farrell
> > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010  12:39
> > >> >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >  >> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Reintroduction
> >  >> >>
> > >> >> Thank God... on both  counts.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Wed,  Nov 17, 2010 at 12:28 PM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
> >  >> >>
> > >> >> > Mike.
> >  >> >> > Welcome back to the list. A while back we had to have a  
> separation 
> > > of
> > >> >> >  sailing from politics. The political people left the list and 
> >  > started
> > >> >> their
> > >>  >> > own
> > >> >> > social network list. The  sailors and most of the drunks are 
> still 
> > >  here.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >  Rummy
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>  >
> > >> >> > In a message dated 11/16/2010 3:07:58  P.M. Eastern Standard 
Time,
> > >> >> >  michael.4591 at gmail.com writes:
> > >> >> >
>  > >> >> > By way of a reintroduction I am Mike Corley, a  loyal Rhodes 
> owner 
> > > since
> > >>  >> > 1996. I have not been active on the list in several years. It  
is
> > >> >> > definitely a lot quieter now than it  used to be. Sort of miss 
> the
> > >> >>  barroom
> > >> >> > mentality of the old list.
>  > >> >> > I have owned two Rhodes, the first was a new 96  model I 
bought 
> from
> > >> >> > Stan and then  after returning from Europe Stan made me a great 
> deal 
> >  > and 
> > >> >> > I
> > >> >>  > traded it in on a slightly used and upgraded 99 Rhodes in 
2000, 
>  but 
> > >> >> > that
> > >> >>  > is
> > >> >> > another story. I like to tell  people that I liked the boat so 
> much I
> > >> >>  > bought
> > >> >> > it twice. I still take the  boat back to GB in Edenton, NC when 
> it 
> > >  needs
> > >> >> > work which is infrequently. Stan and  GB is the most honest 
> business 
> > > I
> >  >> >> > have
> > >> >> > ever dealt  with and they still do good work!
> > >> >> > I just  recently retired from the Army after 30 years of 
service. 
> I
>  > >> >> > retired from Fort Monroe, Va and now live in  Smithfield, Va 
at 
> the
> > >> >> >  intersection of the Pagan and James Rivers. I keep my boat at 
> the  
> > > Old
> > >> >> > Point
> >  >> >> > Comfort Marina at Ft Monroe in Hampton, Va which is  about 22 
> miles 
> > > from
> > >> >>  > Smithfield. My children are grown now so I primarily 
singlehand 
>  > > which 
> > >> >> > is
> > >>  >> > easy to do in a Rhodes. I have enjoyed sailing the Southern  
> > > Chesapeake
> > >> >> > for
>  > >> >> > the last four years. Previously I have sailed my  Rhodes out 
of 
> > > Middle
> > >> >> >  River
> > >> >> > near Baltimore, Newbern, NC on the  Neuse river, and Washington 
> DC 
> > > on 
> >  >> >> > the
> > >> >> > Potomac River.  As all of you will agree, the Rhodes is a great 
> > >  costal
> > >> >> and
> > >> >> >  inland pocket cruiser!
> > >> >> >
> >  >> >> > Mike Corley
> > >> >> > S/V  Ranger
> > >> >> > 99 Rhodes
> > >>  >> > Hampton Roads, Va
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