2013-05-06; 12:56:12 EDT
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Awesome Stan. Glad to see you haven't lost your sense of humor and are still willing to educate the masses. Rummy In a message dated 5/6/2013 9:31:42 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, stan at rhodes22.com writes: Dear Rhodies and Rhodes Prospects: Recovery does allow one some free time so I would like to say a word for the Rhodes. (It also allows some time for writing - like what you would like engraved in stone. I had always liked "I told them I was sick" but that has been taken so am toying with "after an 87 year battle with natural causes".) When you are young you tend to know the other guy knows more than you. When you get real old, you know nobody knows more than you - at least Rhodes and politically, speaking. I won't take the List's time politically since I am always writing that book and never getting much further than the changing of titles, the latest being, "MINORITY OF FOOLS, the triggering of the Coming Boom" - stan spitzer's first book in 87 years. The Rhodes is a different story. I did not come to bury the Rhodes, as so many on the List have been doing. I have come to see that its legacy outlives all who live to sail - and the rest of us who sail to live. In the beginning our contribution was creative design, not the breaking-in of new construction techniques. Every builder used wood for the cores, rivets for the shoe box seams and thin glass for the new market of the hoped for masses. So we did too. All we had was a shared advertising art studio 2nd floor office on 46th street, so we spent the nineteen seventies at the pros from Nova Scotia to Wichita, watching them build their boats - and ours. In those days, when cores were made with balsa and each square patiently tapped to try and insure bonding, or with strips of fir or ply, we squirmed instinctively. But we were only in our forties. Nevertheless we stared making up our own core packages to bring to the contractor: Shaped ply panels that we slotted and coated with resin. Somewhat better since many of the old Rhodes we later bought back, still had solid decks. Some did not. Today, Rhodes decks have no wood. Cores are plastic. Thickness is overkill. We tell show lookers to skip tire kicking and jump on our decks instead; then watch competitors expressions when lookers begin jumping up and down on their decks. In those days of simplified pricing, it was by the pound - glass and resin used. The lighter the boat the more competitive, price wise. The Ventures came along and made this building, an art form. In water it did not seem to matter - on land the art form had its weak points, particularly on trailers. In my fifties standing in the lazaret, feeling the flexing hull bottom underfoot, was unnerving. Molding the Rhodes keel as an integrated part of the hull itself, made the Rhodes mid-ship bottom, naturally stiff, whereas competitive boats bolted on their keels. Few boats had flotation. Those that did accomplished it with chunks of bought foam planks, as we ourselves did - in our early days; until it dawned on us to marry the two by molding the foam to fit the hull, then glass it in to stiffen the cockpit and bow sections of the boat bottom. It also dawned on us that a modest redesign of the floor unit stringers and their glassing in, added more bottom stiffness. By the time we moved the making of the hulls to our own shop, we had matured enough to have given up on the price wars. We started to lay up the port side hull glass so it continued on across the bottom, and the starboard side glass lay up so it too continued on across the bottom. With the hull sides extraordinarily stiff from the Rhodes unusual compound curved flared hull shape, now its bottom was extraordinarily stiff from being twice the thickness of the sides. The hulls we build today in our own facility are so extraordinarily stiff that we lift the boats by their bow eye and transom eyes and boat shape shows no deflection. This amazing difference from our early boats /is/ probably overkill because I do not know of any other builder who moves their boats around supported at only its two extremes. In those days masts in our category were mostly supported by three stays (maybe a forth as a backstay) and stepped on a well connected mast tabernacle. With only the jib stay forward of the pivot point and the most likely to fail; bringing the mast down - and part of the cabin top up, damage to boat and crew could be noteworthy. Reading, we learned that masts with this kind of elementary rigging, were subject to "pumping" symptoms. Observing, we noted the vaccination for mast pumping on larger sailboats was lower shrouds, fore and aft of the mast pivot point. Extremists from the start, we went from 3 to 9 stays, and a screwed-on "break-away" mast step. The results (worth the increase in costs and slight increase in rigging time): A superior mast load distribution on the hull. A breaking jib stay (the most likely stay to fail on a sailboat) does not bring down the mast. The evolution of the Rhodes mast hoist system. The wiping out of mast pumping. The built-in vertical life line effects from multiple spaced out shrouds. The safety of redundancy. The evolution of the Rhodes unique traveler system. And even if the sore loser of the race you just won, pulls all 9 stay pins, your deck top does not feel the pain. Remember, the 4 additional lower shrouds are there to take the pumping action out of your mast (and support it in an emergency if ever an upper shroud failure). However, to those creative early-boat owners who over-tighten or somehow manage to sail into obstacles to loosen or even pull out these innocent 4 extra chain plates, take comfort in knowing that in the latest Rhodes they are also glassed into the deck to make their damaging a bit more difficult. For those who, at sometime or another, have to see what happens when sailing under a low bridge or trailing with the mast up or trying to take down an overhanging tree branch the easy way, and are annoyed by the results, sorry, we have supported your boat's mast to the best of our abilities - so far. In those days most decks and hulls were joined with rivets. Fast, easy, not so strong because they were aluminum. They did not allow for a controlled drawing in (spacing between deck and hull) and their shaft (steel) sometimes broke, remaining inside the compressed rivet, eventually leaving dripping rust stains. The alternate, glassing deck to hull, took its toll on workers and hence builders. Nuts on bolts, too difficult. SS screws through the deck and threading into the hull, actually turns out to be the best way to go. Stainless is strong and forever and allows spacing control. General Boats benefits from the best quality control possible - our owners. Because we do not sell through dealers we are able to cup our ears. If no screams, we know /that/ idea is working. If we are mistaken we get first hand field reports and we can turn on a smaller dime than the big guys. New Rhodes decks to hulls are bolted at the transom corners' chain plates and main upper shroud chain plates and screwed together in-between. Winches, cleats, tracks, that carry shear forces, are installed with machine screws threaded into our thick glass layup. Does that work? You have told us it does. Not once in all our years have we lost a single deck or any hardware so attached. We rest our shear load case. Deck/hull seam leakage? The boat is not intended to be sailed with the rail under water, but that is inevitable. And here we have goofed. We just assumed everyone knew how to use a caulking gun and observed many of our earlier workers did not. For those in the latter class we point out that you advance with the gun in front of you forcing the sealant up into the cavity as you progress, NOT with gun moving away from its chore so it is pulling on the sealant. The moral of all this is the same as in the closing scene of the movie classic "Some Like It Hot" where Joe E. Brown, sitting in the back seat of a motor boat, puts his arm around Jack Lemon who, in a dress, is wearing a blond wig and Lemon pulls off his wig in his final frustrated attempt to prove he is not a woman, to which Brown persists his advances, gleefully delivering the movie's last line, "Nobody's perfect". Except, of course, a recent Rhodes. ssSee the original archive post