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Inquiry on 130% genoa
2013-11-08; 15:31:20 EST
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2002-09-17
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The four of us are the original Rhodes 22 extreme sailing team. Rummy In a message dated 11/8/2013 2:57:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, boendert at me.com writes: How much wind are we talking here? 25kts?See the original archive post
On Nov 8, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote: > You probably hit a drunken whale. > > > On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:18 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote: > >> Rick, >> Yes. RumRunner had mast in the water. Stan doesn't like me posting the >> story. :) Much alcohol and four experienced sailors were involved. Pushed >> the >> boat beyond its limits. What a day it was. We were well into our second >> bottle of rum.....and not the small ones. >> >> Rummy >> >> >> In a message dated 11/7/2013 7:15:21 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >> sloopblueheron at gmail.com writes: >> >> Rummy, >> >> I missed your original post, but did you say you laid over a >> moving/sailing >> R22? >> >> Rick >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:02 PM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote: >> >>> Art, >>> I know what you are asking, but we were so drunk when we laid RumRunner >>> over that I have no clue as to how to answer your question. Two >> batteries >>> and >>> water tank forward. 8hp Tohatsu hanging off back end. 4 sailors on board >> so >>> I have no idea on balance of boat. I know that we had the rail buried >> most >>> of the day and it was rounding up frequently just prior to getting >> knocked >>> down by a 180 degree wind change. It still is one of my best days >> sailing. >>> I will try to get the new owners (Yankee Clipper) name for you. I don't >>> believe I have seen them on the list. Water in the lake, but the Corps >> is >>> determined to drop it four feet for the winter. >>> >>> Rummy >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 11/7/2013 12:09:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >>> cover-man at comcast.net writes: >>> >>> Rummy, >>> >>> Truly, only with the touch of the Rumster! And the sage wisdom of >> Captain >>> Keller. Have you ever noticed a change of waterline length of the R22 >>> when heeling or with additional ballast forrward, such a key factor in >>> the >>> hull speed? >>> >>> Are Bob and Sheila getting out on blue water yet? I want to get the >> name >>> of his new Yankee Clipper owner so I can be of help with his BR. >>> >>> I hope all is well with you and your boat. Like, plenty of water this >>> year... >>> >>> R, >>> >>> Art >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Have a nice day ! >>> >>> -------- Original message -------- >>> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com >>> Date: 11/07/2013 11:24 AM (GMT-05:00) >>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130% genoa >>> >>> Art, >>> Hull speed is easily surpassed. It just takes a lot of ballast (crew), >>> enough wind and a lot of rum. >>> I spent last weekend down on St. Simons Island with Captain Bob Keller >>> (Former Rhodes owner, Yankee Clipper) on his new to him Catalina 310. >> Had >>> enough wind to get his hull up to 8.3 which is faster than the rated >> hull >>> speed >>> for his boat. >>> >>> Rummy >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 11/5/2013 4:48:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >>> cover-man at comcast.net writes: >>> >>> Think of it, guys - what a terrible shame that with our infinite vigor >>> and >>> boundless brilliance we are still confined to the hull speed. We need >>> some more help from our fearless leader! >>> >>> Well, back to a glass of Sherry in the BR... >>> >>> Rummy, where are you? >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Art >>> >>> >>> Have a nice day ! >>> >>> -------- Original message -------- >>> From: Charles Nieman <blue66corvette at hotmail.com> >>> Date: 11/05/2013 3:14 PM (GMT-05:00) >>> To: Rhodes List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130% genoa >>> >>> Ric, et al; >>> For the UPS, I have a seperate halyard that is there for whatever I >>> choose >>> to hoist (ie flag, Christmas lights, UPS, etc) mostly is just bangs the >>> mast like everyone else in the marina (I wouldn't want to be the only >>> quiet >>> boat on a breezy day :-)) I have found that while the UPS is self >> furling, >>> it >>> has a tendancy to try to come out if you hoist it just to motor out or >>> other times, so I keep it laying on the fordeck until I am ready to >>> deploy (if >>> it is anything over 5 knots I leave it in the bag since I know I won't >> be >>> using it) >>> >>> On the question about the furler, I am presuming you are asking about >> the >>> 130; and I cannot answer. I have never had the sail off the furling >> tube >>> (I >>> have on the main, and that sail has the groove in the furling tube >> that >>> one inserts the sail into) and have not ventured to inspect while under >>> full >>> sail to verify. I do know it has a luff rope cause I can see it. >>> >>>> From: ric at steelbone.com >>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >>>> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 13:00:01 -0500 >>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130% genoa >>>> >>>> HI Charles >>>> Thanks for your input >>>> Personally I think a 130 and the UPS are a great combination for the >>>> Rhodes 22. >>>> Questions. >>>> How do you hoist you UPS? >>>> Do you have a dedicated halyard or do you sue the topping lift? >>>> Do you have a modern roller furler with a luff groove? >>>> Ric Stott >>>> s/v Dadventure - '84 >>>> Hampton Bays, NY >>>> >>>> On Nov 5, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Charles Nieman wrote: >>>> >>>>> Art >>>>> I had a 175 on my old R22, I thought it was a great sail and >>>>> probably used too much of it when I should have reefed. I got a >> new >>>>> to me R22 that had a 130 and I seriously thought about changing to >> a >>> >>>>> 175 but the 130 was too new for my frugal nature to make that >> move, >>>>> plus the new boat also has a UPS for really light air (the >> observed >>>>> problem with the 175 was when you really need that much sail, it >> is >>>>> too heavy to work). I am so pleased with the 130 and UPS, I will >> not >>> >>>>> be going back to the 175 when these wear out (I also doubt the UPS >>>>> will wear out, since I only use it in very light air, which >> usually >>>>> means too hot to be out there, here in Texas). >>>>> >>>>> Now I am on a Texas lake, and If you are thinking in regards to >> your >>> >>>>> Florida location, it may be totally different. >>>>> >>>>> One man's opinion >>>>> >>>>> Charles >>>>> 98 R 22 >>>>> s/v Daydream >>>>> >>>>>> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 16:44:06 +0000 >>>>>> From: cover-man at comcast.net >>>>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Inquiry on 130% genoa >>>>>> >>>>>> Guys, >>>>>> >>>>>> I am contemplating getting the 130, but curious to get any >> feedback >>>>>> on your performance experience. Thx. >>>>>> >>>>>> Art >>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>>>> >>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>>>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>>> >>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>> >>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >> archives >>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/li >>> stinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >> go >>> >>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >> go >>> >>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >> go >>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >> go >>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >> go >>> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >>> >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go >> to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mai lman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________
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