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Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 3339, Issue 1
2013-11-14; 12:24:15 EST
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Richard, DO NOT THRU BOLT THE MAST STEP. Unless you want to remove the cabin top from the hull. As others have stated. Fill holes with epoxy and tooth picks. Re drill holes and use new stainless screws. They do not need to be larger. If you think the step screws came out to easily, you might want to check for rot in that area. Drill a couple of small holes to determine if the deck is solid or rotten. The holes can easily be filled with epoxy and repaired with gel coat kit. IF you have rotten decking, that's a completely different fix, but can be done economically. Rummy In a message dated 11/12/2013 3:18:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Richard at MacArthurLawFirm.com writes: Does anyone have a fix for out R22 mast step which ripped out of the deck when we were using Stan's mast lowering system? It let go when the mast was about 2/3 of the way down which is where the greatest horizontal force is put on the mast step. I found the mast step was held in place by 3 screws which is fine for resisting the vertical force ( vector ) while the mast is standing but not so good when lowering or raising the mast. This is an 88 model partially refurbished in 98. I'm thinking of through drilling the deck with ss bolts and putting a plate on the underside of the deck, assuming the bolts won't interfere with the mast support which is below the mast support and down to the keel. Sent from my iPhoneSee the original archive post
> On Nov 12, 2013, at 12:01 PM, "rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org" <rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org> wrote: > > Send Rhodes22-list mailing list submissions to > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > rhodes22-list-owner at rhodes22.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Rhodes22-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Cover for Rhodes (Patrick Fletcher) > 2. Re: Cover for Rhodes (Stephen Staum) > 3. Re: Using mast crutch for tarp (Sal D'Andrea) > 4. Re: Using mast crutch for tarp (sprocket80) > 5. Re: Using mast crutch for tarp (Leland) > 6. Re: Using mast crutch for tarp (R22RumRunner at aol.com) > 7. Re: Using mast crutch for tarp (Leland) > 8. Re: Using mast crutch for tarp (Theodore Boender) > 9. Re: Using mast crutch for tarp (Ronald Lipton) > 10. Re: Using mast crutch for tarp (Michael Weisner) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 12:34:20 -0800 > From: Patrick Fletcher <patrick.d.fletcher at gmail.com> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cover for Rhodes > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Message-ID: > <CADiS6hzEBW2oWmV=xMKjps5hqQkMj=F6X-8QFHHN+oLL2yHj5g at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I keep my Rhodes 22 in the driveway on its trailer, underneath a prolific > birch tree, and am looking for a cover that would keep it leaf and dirt > free. Does anyone have a commercially-available cover that works well for > their Rhodes, either with the mast in the cradle or down on the stern rail? > > Thanks- > > --Pat > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 16:10:04 -0500 > From: Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cover for Rhodes > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Message-ID: <2C1FF818-4F3C-465A-B1BB-FEE854138F1C at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Patrick, > > I use a 40 x 25 tarp ($46 from Defender) w the mast crutch. If you drop the lifelines you get a nice pitch the length of the boat to shed snow. Only the heavy wet snow will stick but it is easily brushed off w a push broom. Easy for me as the boat is in my yard. Large tarp hangs over the entire boat & is bungeed to the trailer all around. 2 bungee removal allows access to go aboard. > > Stephen Staum > s/v Carol Lee 2 > Needham, MA > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 9, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Ted B <Boendert at me.com> wrote: >> >> All, Just spent the day emptying the boat, fogging the motor, and cleaning. >> I've read lots of pro and cons on the list concerning shrink-wrap, custom >> covers (thanks Art but way to expensive for me), and tarps to including >> fabrication of a PVC structure to reenforce the cover of choice. >> >> Does anyone just use the GB mast crutch to support a tarp while on the >> trailer? My blue-hulled boat was recycled this year and a assume Stan uses >> awlgrip paint on topsides and hull. Everyone on the list is adamant about >> not shrink-wrapping painted hulls so I guess I won't spend the $. >> >> It seems to me that the GB mast crutch provides a good A-frame so snow won't >> build up. I bought a 20X30 tarp and it seems like it would work well using >> this approach. >> >> Any advice? Other than moving back to Florida! >> >> Cheers, >> Ted >> Boston, MA >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> Ted >> Boston, Massachusetts >> -- >> View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Using-mast-crutch-for-tarp-tp47155.html >> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go tohttp://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go tohttp://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 11, 2013, at 3:34 PM, Patrick Fletcher <patrick.d.fletcher at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I keep my Rhodes 22 in the driveway on its trailer, underneath a prolific >> birch tree, and am looking for a cover that would keep it leaf and dirt >> free. Does anyone have a commercially-available cover that works well for >> their Rhodes, either with the mast in the cradle or down on the stern rail? >> >> Thanks- >> >> --Pat >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 07:37:30 -0500 > From: "Sal D'Andrea" <s.g.dandrea at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Using mast crutch for tarp > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Message-ID: <DB433BA2-EF29-4A36-AD3D-7A18321494EF at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I herd that it is not good to leave the battery on the boat during the winter. > Also, the cables hoop. Does any one > A different opinion Sal > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 10, 2013, at 7:27 PM, "Graham Stewart" <gstewart8 at cogeco.ca> wrote: >> >> I found that it was easier to store my mast off the boat and use two 14' 2x4 >> as a ridge for the tarp. It was held in place by the fore pulpit, a 4x4 post >> at the mast step and another support at the stern. The mast has a lot of >> gear and spreaders that can tear the tarp but I am sure that works fine and >> makes sense if you don't have a convenient place to store the mast. >> I have never understood the preference for shrink wrap. Air circulation >> inside the boat is important and having that adhesive tape stuck around the >> perimeter looks to me like trouble. Add to that the fact that it costs much >> more than a tarp and it rates poorly in my books. But then, I have never >> tied it so I may have missed the advantages. >> >> Graham >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org >> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Staum >> Sent: November-10-13 5:35 PM >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Using mast crutch for tarp >> >> I charge my batteries & leave in place. I cut & drilled a 4 x 4 to bolt to >> the mast mount & support the mast midship. I was not happy watching the mast >> flex while towing. >> >> Stephen >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 10, 2013, at 3:13 PM, Theodore Boender <boendert at me.com> wrote: >>> >>> Stephen, That would be great! I am looking for a sailing mentor. I'll >> bring lunch and your beverage of choice! Let me know if you need help on >> launch day, I'd be happy to assist. I've got raising the mast down pretty >> well using Stan's latest version of the mast raising system. >>> >>> I am going to cover my boat with a large tarp as we discussed. I took off >> the spreaders and I am going to reinforce the mast a little in the middle. >> Trying to decide if I am going to take out the batteries or just leave them >> be and hope for the best. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ted >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Nov 10, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Great Ted. I sail out of Squantum Yacht Club off Wollaston Beach in >> Quincy. Lots of great sailing around the Harbor Islands & only a half hour >> from home. I am usually in the water by mid June & try to get out after work >> once or twice a week in season. It would be my pleasure if you like to join >> me next year. >>>> >>>> Stephen Staum >>>> s/v Carol Lee 2 >>>> Needham, MA >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Nov 10, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Theodore Boender <boendert at me.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Stephen, I live at Hanscom Air Force Base near Bedford. However, I kept >> the boat up at Lake Winni, NH since we own a house up there and spend our >> weekends there throughout the summer. >>>>> >>>>> It is my first boat and I am a new sailor. I did trailer sail the boat >> in Boston harbor earlier this summer before heading up to lake winni. I >> loved it! I prefer the salt water and the more consistent breezes. >>>>> >>>>> I've been meaning to reach out to you since we are fairly close. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ted >>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 10:48 PM, Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Ted, >>>>>> >>>>>> I use a 40 x 25 tarp ($46 from Defender) w the mast crutch. If you drop >> the lifelines you get a nice pitch the length of the boat to shed snow. Only >> the heavy wet snow will stick but it is easily brushed off w a push broom. >> Easy for me as the boat is in my yard. Large tarp hangs over the entire boat >> & is bungeed to the trailer all around. 2 bungee removal allows access to go >> aboard. >>>>>> >>>>>> Where are u in Boston & where do u sail? >>>>>> >>>>>> Stephen Staum >>>>>> s/v Carol Lee 2 >>>>>> Needham, MA >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Ted B <Boendert at me.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All, Just spent the day emptying the boat, fogging the motor, and >> cleaning. >>>>>>> I've read lots of pro and cons on the list concerning shrink-wrap, >>>>>>> custom covers (thanks Art but way to expensive for me), and tarps >>>>>>> to including fabrication of a PVC structure to reenforce the cover of >> choice. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does anyone just use the GB mast crutch to support a tarp while on >>>>>>> the trailer? My blue-hulled boat was recycled this year and a >>>>>>> assume Stan uses awlgrip paint on topsides and hull. Everyone on >>>>>>> the list is adamant about not shrink-wrapping painted hulls so I guess >> I won't spend the $. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It seems to me that the GB mast crutch provides a good A-frame so >>>>>>> snow won't build up. I bought a 20X30 tarp and it seems like it >>>>>>> would work well using this approach. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any advice? Other than moving back to Florida! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Ted >>>>>>> Boston, MA >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>> Ted >>>>>>> Boston, Massachusetts >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> View this message in context: >>>>>>> http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Using-mast-crutch-for-tarp- >>>>>>> tp47155.html Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at >>>>>>> Nabble.com. >>>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >>>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>>>>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >>>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>>>> >>>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>>>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >>>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>>> >>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> __________________________________________________ >>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>> >>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and >>>> archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> __________________________________________________ >>> >>> __________________________________________________ >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives >>> go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> __________________________________________________ >> >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to >> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to >> http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ >> >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 07:57:43 -0500 > From: sprocket80 <sprocket80 at mail.com> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Using mast crutch for tarp > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Message-ID: <932dc62e-80d8-43ef-981f-168c89a28d77 at email.android.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Ted, > > I have used a tarp with the mast on the carrier as the ridge pole. My suggestion is cut a 4x4 and support the mast in the middle in the mast to deck bracket. I also pull the spreaders out of their mounting brackets. I wrap and lay them on the cabin top still attached to the shrouds. This way, heavy snow on the tarp won't bend them or the brackets. > > Todd T. > -- > Sent from my Android phone with mail.com Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote: > > Great Ted. I sail out of Squantum Yacht Club off Wollaston Beach in Quincy. Lots of great sailing around the Harbor Islands & only a half hour from home. I am usually in the water by mid June & try to get out after work once or twice a week in season. It would be my pleasure if you like to join me next year. > > Stephen Staum > s/v Carol Lee 2 > Needham, MA > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 10, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Theodore Boender <boendert at me.com> wrote: >> >> Stephen, I live at Hanscom Air Force Base near Bedford. However, I kept the boat up at Lake Winni, NH since we own a house up there and spend our weekends there throughout the summer. >> >> It is my first boat and I am a new sailor. I did trailer sail the boat in Boston harbor earlier this summer before heading up to lake winni. I loved it! I prefer the salt water and the more consistent breezes. >> >> I've been meaning to reach out to you since we are fairly close. >> >> Cheers, >> Ted >> >>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 10:48 PM, Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Ted, >>> >>> I use a 40 x 25 tarp ($46 from Defender) w the mast crutch. If you drop the lifelines you get a nice pitch the length of the boat to shed snow. Only the heavy wet snow will stick but it is easily brushed off w a push broom. Easy for me as the boat is in my yard. Large tarp hangs over the entire boat & is bungeed to the trailer all around. 2 bungee removal allows access to go aboard. >>> >>> Where are u in Boston & where do u sail? >>> >>> Stephen Staum >>> s/v Carol Lee 2 >>> Needham, MA >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Ted B <Boendert at me.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> All, Just spent the day emptying the boat, fogging the motor, and cleaning. >>>> I've read lots of pro and cons on the list concerning shrink-wrap, custom >>>> covers (thanks Art but way to expensive for me), and tarps to including >>>> fabrication of a PVC structure to reenforce the cover of choice. >>>> >>>> Does anyone just use the GB mast crutch to support a tarp while on the >>>> trailer? My blue-hulled boat was recycled this year and a assume Stan uses >>>> awlgrip paint on topsides and hull. Everyone on the list is adamant about >>>> not shrink-wrapping painted hulls so I guess I won't spend the $. >>>> >>>> It seems to me that the GB mast crutch provides a good A-frame so snow won't >>>> build up. I bought a 20X30 tarp and it seems like it would work well using >>>> this approach. >>>> >>>> Any advice? Other than moving back to Florida! >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ted >>>> Boston, MA >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Ted >>>> Boston, Massachusetts >>>> -- >>>> View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Using-mast-crutch-for-tarp-tp47155.html >>>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>> _____________________________________________ > >>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>> >>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> _____________________________________________ > >>> >>> _____________________________________________ > >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> _____________________________________________ > >> >> _____________________________________________ > >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> _____________________________________________ > > > _____________________________________________ > > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > _____________________________________________ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 05:21:48 -0800 (PST) > From: Leland <LKUHN at cnmc.org> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Using mast crutch for tarp > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > Message-ID: <1384262508615-47168.post at n5.nabble.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Sal, > > I have a different opinion although I'm not recommending it. I leave my > batteries and cables on the boat year round. I got my recycled '86 in '05 > and replaced my batteries last year for the first time. > > It may not have been the moderate winters here in Maryland that drained the > juice. I never checked the water level and both batteries had little (or > no) water in them. I now check the water levels once a year and I added an > on/off switch which I use whenever I remember. > > Everyone recommends bringing motorcycle batteries inside for the winter and > I've never done that either. If I don't ride enough the battery may drain > but it recharges right back up. > > Lee > 1986 Rhodes22 AT EASE > Kent Island, MD > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Using-mast-crutch-for-tarp-tp47155p47168.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 10:33:40 -0500 (EST) > From: R22RumRunner at aol.com > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Using mast crutch for tarp > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > Message-ID: <4ca5e.353e927b.3fb3a454 at aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Where the batteries are stored doesn't matter. What really matters is that > they like to be fully charged. If a battery is allowed to drain voltage > over the winter, it is possible for them to freeze and crack the case. Battery > acid does not freeze, but water will. I would recommend charging the > batteries fully with a charger and then put a trickle/maintainer charger on the > winter months. In the south we use our boats year around, but obviously > some days are better than others. We cover the speed boat and turn the battery > switch to the off position, but leave a trickle charger attached all > winter. The Rhodes is used more often and I have a deep cycle charger on board > which is plugged in when at the dock. > > Rummy > > > In a message dated 11/12/2013 8:21:59 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > LKUHN at cnmc.org writes: > > Sal, > > I have a different opinion although I'm not recommending it. I leave my > batteries and cables on the boat year round. I got my recycled '86 in '05 > and replaced my batteries last year for the first time. > > It may not have been the moderate winters here in Maryland that drained the > juice. I never checked the water level and both batteries had little (or > no) water in them. I now check the water levels once a year and I added an > on/off switch which I use whenever I remember. > > Everyone recommends bringing motorcycle batteries inside for the winter and > I've never done that either. If I don't ride enough the battery may drain > but it recharges right back up. > > Lee > 1986 Rhodes22 AT EASE > Kent Island, MD > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Using-mast-crutch-for-tarp-tp47155p47168.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 07:46:24 -0800 (PST) > From: Leland <LKUHN at cnmc.org> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Using mast crutch for tarp > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > Message-ID: <1384271184964-47170.post at n5.nabble.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Rummy, > > Good point about the batteries being fully charged. Forgot to mention that > I have two solar panels. Thank God and Stan for recommending that I get at > least one and for sunshine, not particularly in that order. > > Lee > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Using-mast-crutch-for-tarp-tp47155p47170.html > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 10:57:17 -0500 > From: Theodore Boender <boendert at me.com> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Using mast crutch for tarp > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Message-ID: <9078CD31-731C-4E8E-BE1F-96B30F9E615B at me.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Todd, I agree. I took off the spreaders, no problem. I also reenforced the mast. Here is the finished product. I closed the back using bunggie cords so I can climb in the back. It also should allow for ventilation. I also used bunggie cord under the trailer to keep the tarp tight and away from the hull as much as possible. I also decided to take the batteries out and store in my warm garage with a trickle charger. I am hoping global warming will really kick in this year so I can start sailing in April versus June! > > Cheers > Ted > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 128726 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20131112/be9a0fa7/attachment.jpeg > -------------- next part -------------- > > >> On Nov 12, 2013, at 7:57 AM, sprocket80 <sprocket80 at mail.com> wrote: >> >> Ted, >> >> I have used a tarp with the mast on the carrier as the ridge pole. My suggestion is cut a 4x4 and support the mast in the middle in the mast to deck bracket. I also pull the spreaders out of their mounting brackets. I wrap and lay them on the cabin top still attached to the shrouds. This way, heavy snow on the tarp won't bend them or the brackets. >> >> Todd T. >> -- >> Sent from my Android phone with mail.com Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> >> Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Great Ted. I sail out of Squantum Yacht Club off Wollaston Beach in Quincy. Lots of great sailing around the Harbor Islands & only a half hour from home. I am usually in the water by mid June & try to get out after work once or twice a week in season. It would be my pleasure if you like to join me next year. >> >> Stephen Staum >> s/v Carol Lee 2 >> Needham, MA >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 10, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Theodore Boender <boendert at me.com> wrote: >>> >>> Stephen, I live at Hanscom Air Force Base near Bedford. However, I kept the boat up at Lake Winni, NH since we own a house up there and spend our weekends there throughout the summer. >>> >>> It is my first boat and I am a new sailor. I did trailer sail the boat in Boston harbor earlier this summer before heading up to lake winni. I loved it! I prefer the salt water and the more consistent breezes. >>> >>> I've been meaning to reach out to you since we are fairly close. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ted >>> >>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 10:48 PM, Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Ted, >>>> >>>> I use a 40 x 25 tarp ($46 from Defender) w the mast crutch. If you drop the lifelines you get a nice pitch the length of the boat to shed snow. Only the heavy wet snow will stick but it is easily brushed off w a push broom. Easy for me as the boat is in my yard. Large tarp hangs over the entire boat & is bungeed to the trailer all around. 2 bungee removal allows access to go aboard. >>>> >>>> Where are u in Boston & where do u sail? >>>> >>>> Stephen Staum >>>> s/v Carol Lee 2 >>>> Needham, MA >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Ted B <Boendert at me.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> All, Just spent the day emptying the boat, fogging the motor, and cleaning. >>>>> I've read lots of pro and cons on the list concerning shrink-wrap, custom >>>>> covers (thanks Art but way to expensive for me), and tarps to including >>>>> fabrication of a PVC structure to reenforce the cover of choice. >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone just use the GB mast crutch to support a tarp while on the >>>>> trailer? My blue-hulled boat was recycled this year and a assume Stan uses >>>>> awlgrip paint on topsides and hull. Everyone on the list is adamant about >>>>> not shrink-wrapping painted hulls so I guess I won't spend the $. >>>>> >>>>> It seems to me that the GB mast crutch provides a good A-frame so snow won't >>>>> build up. I bought a 20X30 tarp and it seems like it would work well using >>>>> this approach. >>>>> >>>>> Any advice? Other than moving back to Florida! >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ted >>>>> Boston, MA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Ted >>>>> Boston, Massachusetts >>>>> -- >>>>> View this message in context: http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Using-mast-crutch-for-tarp-tp47155.html >>>>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>> _____________________________________________ >> >>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>>> >>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>> _____________________________________________ >> >>>> >>>> _____________________________________________ >> >>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>> >>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> _____________________________________________ >> >>> >>> _____________________________________________ >> >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> _____________________________________________ >> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> _____________________________________________ >> >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 10:52:35 -0600 > From: Ronald Lipton <ronald.lipton at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Using mast crutch for tarp > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Message-ID: <52825CD3.1090102 at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > In past years, when I stored the boat in my back yard, I rested the mast > on the bow and stern railings and used plastic > fencing material supported by PVC to support the tarp over the cockpit. > I still got some pooling and ice buildup which > I removed from time to time. Two years ago I started storing the boat > in the parking lot of Montrose Harbor, off of > Lake Michigan. Conditions were much harsher and the yard is not > accessible during the winter. When I came back in the > spring the tarp had completely disappeared. I had it shrink wrapped > last year, but the cost really hurts my > skinflint side. This year I am going to try to keep the mast up and use > my cockpit cover supported by some > wooden struts to keep water and snow out of the cockpit. We will see > how that works... > > Ron > >> On 11/12/13 6:57 AM, sprocket80 wrote: >> Ted, >> >> I have used a tarp with the mast on the carrier as the ridge pole. My suggestion is cut a 4x4 and support the mast in the middle in the mast to deck bracket. I also pull the spreaders out of their mounting brackets. I wrap and lay them on the cabin top still attached to the shrouds. This way, heavy snow on the tarp won't bend them or the brackets. >> >> Todd T. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 11:59:51 -0500 > From: "Michael Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Using mast crutch for tarp > To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Message-ID: <01e301cedfc8$9b2305a0$d16910e0$@ebsmed.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Ted, > > Throughout the winter, especially during mating season in the early spring, > remember to check for animals who will nest in nicely closed (tarped) boats. > They can be a real mess to clean up. > > I also tape foam or towels over most of the sharp items such as the spreader > fittings and cleats on the mast to avoid damage to the tarp. The wind and > snow will cause movement which can tear the material. I have also > experimented with using gallon jugs (milk or bleach) filled with water to > act as the tarp hold downs. This permits the tarp to adjust during heavy > snowfall rather than rip or pull out the grommets. Wal-Mart sells tarp > clips (yellow plastic) to repair the tarp if you lose a grommet. > > Global warming? Let's not start that discussion again! PLEASE BE CAREFUL > IF YOU LAUNCH IN APRIL - WATER TEMPS ARE LOW ENOUGH FOR HYPOTHERMIA! WEAR A > LIFE JACKET FOR SURE TO GIVE YOU ENOUGH TIME TO BE RESCUED! (Note: Late > season sailing (November/December) is actually safer since the water is > still fairly warm in the northeast. > > Mike > s/v <-no name -> ('91) > Nissequogue River, NY > > > -----Original Message----- > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Theodore Boender > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:57 AM > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Using mast crutch for tarp > > Todd, I agree. I took off the spreaders, no problem. I also reenforced the > mast. Here is the finished product. I closed the back using bunggie cords so > I can climb in the back. It also should allow for ventilation. I also used > bunggie cord under the trailer to keep the tarp tight and away from the hull > as much as possible. I also decided to take the batteries out and store in > my warm garage with a trickle charger. I am hoping global warming will > really kick in this year so I can start sailing in April versus June! > > Cheers > Ted > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 128726 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20131112/be9a0fa > 7/attachment.jpeg > -------------- next part -------------- > > >> On Nov 12, 2013, at 7:57 AM, sprocket80 <sprocket80 at mail.com> wrote: >> >> Ted, >> >> I have used a tarp with the mast on the carrier as the ridge pole. My > suggestion is cut a 4x4 and support the mast in the middle in the mast to > deck bracket. I also pull the spreaders out of their mounting brackets. I > wrap and lay them on the cabin top still attached to the shrouds. This way, > heavy snow on the tarp won't bend them or the brackets. >> >> Todd T. >> -- >> Sent from my Android phone with mail.com Mail. Please excuse my brevity. >> >> Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Great Ted. I sail out of Squantum Yacht Club off Wollaston Beach in > Quincy. Lots of great sailing around the Harbor Islands & only a half hour > from home. I am usually in the water by mid June & try to get out after work > once or twice a week in season. It would be my pleasure if you like to join > me next year. >> >> Stephen Staum >> s/v Carol Lee 2 >> Needham, MA >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 10, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Theodore Boender <boendert at me.com> wrote: >>> >>> Stephen, I live at Hanscom Air Force Base near Bedford. However, I kept > the boat up at Lake Winni, NH since we own a house up there and spend our > weekends there throughout the summer. >>> >>> It is my first boat and I am a new sailor. I did trailer sail the boat in > Boston harbor earlier this summer before heading up to lake winni. I loved > it! I prefer the salt water and the more consistent breezes. >>> >>> I've been meaning to reach out to you since we are fairly close. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ted >>> >>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 10:48 PM, Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Ted, >>>> >>>> I use a 40 x 25 tarp ($46 from Defender) w the mast crutch. If you drop > the lifelines you get a nice pitch the length of the boat to shed snow. Only > the heavy wet snow will stick but it is easily brushed off w a push broom. > Easy for me as the boat is in my yard. Large tarp hangs over the entire boat > & is bungeed to the trailer all around. 2 bungee removal allows access to go > aboard. >>>> >>>> Where are u in Boston & where do u sail? >>>> >>>> Stephen Staum >>>> s/v Carol Lee 2 >>>> Needham, MA >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Ted B <Boendert at me.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> All, Just spent the day emptying the boat, fogging the motor, and > cleaning. >>>>> I've read lots of pro and cons on the list concerning shrink-wrap, > custom >>>>> covers (thanks Art but way to expensive for me), and tarps to including >>>>> fabrication of a PVC structure to reenforce the cover of choice. >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone just use the GB mast crutch to support a tarp while on the >>>>> trailer? My blue-hulled boat was recycled this year and a assume Stan > uses >>>>> awlgrip paint on topsides and hull. Everyone on the list is adamant > about >>>>> not shrink-wrapping painted hulls so I guess I won't spend the $. >>>>> >>>>> It seems to me that the GB mast crutch provides a good A-frame so snow > won't >>>>> build up. I bought a 20X30 tarp and it seems like it would work well > using >>>>> this approach. >>>>> >>>>> Any advice? Other than moving back to Florida! >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ted >>>>> Boston, MA >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Ted >>>>> Boston, Massachusetts >>>>> -- >>>>> View this message in context: > http://rhodes-22.1065344.n5.nabble.com/Using-mast-crutch-for-tarp-tp47155.ht > ml >>>>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>> _____________________________________________ >> >>>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>>> >>>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>>> _____________________________________________ >> >>>> >>>> _____________________________________________ >> >>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>>> >>>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives > go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>>> _____________________________________________ >> >>> >>> _____________________________________________ >> >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >>> >>> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >>> _____________________________________________ >> >> >> _____________________________________________ >> >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> _____________________________________________ >> >> __________________________________________________ >> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list >> >> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go > to http://www.rhodes22.org/list >> __________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to > http://www.rhodes22.org/list > __________________________________________________ > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Rhodes22-list mailing list > Rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > > > End of Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 3339, Issue 1 > ********************************************** __________________________________________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe go to http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives go to http://www.rhodes22.org/list __________________________________________________
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