Rhodies use GPS and never, ever sail in foggy weather. Blue skies and  
sunshine.
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 3/15/2014 1:17:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
cover-man at comcast.net writes:

Guys,

A very good point by Stan...

Art

On Mar  7, 2014 9:34 AM, Stan Spitzer <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
>
>  a lot of misinformation here but am too busy to infringe on your fun -  
> just want to remind all that no one is talking about the combination  
> Keel/Diamondboard boats and that you old timers can get the same  
> pivoting benefits effect by simply sailing with your prior style  board 
> being kept raked slightly aft. . . . . or you can buy a fixed  keel boat 
> and bite your tongue. 
>
> ss  
>
>
> On 3/7/14, 8:51 AM, Ric Stott wrote: 
> >  Hmm! 
> > I'm very grateful for this thread and this communication.  
> > I see this as an inherent and dangerous weakness in the boat.  
> > I was sailing in a keel boat once long ago. We were on our way  to a 
> > race in Fisher's Island sound. 
> > It was foggy  and before GPS, we proudly knew  where we were, but not 
> > to  the nearest yard. 
> > There are some tall rocks close to the edge of  the channel in 
> > otherwise very deep water. 
> > There  was a 2  ft chop  on a 2  foot swell from offshore and it was  
> > low tide. 
> > The wind had dropped off and we were  moving only a knot or two, 
> > bobbing in the bumps. 
> >  Cocky and content, alert and on watch, we were cruising along with the 
 
> > chute up. 
> > Suddenly, the boat dropped off a wave on  the keel came down on a rock. 
> > We hit so hard I bit my tung   bloody from the impact. The mast and 
> > rigging twanged like it  broke. We quickly checked the bilge fearing 
> > the worse, but to  everyones surprise - no leaks. 
> > An underwater inspection revealed  a big dent on the bottom of the lead 
> > keel. 
> > If that  happened in a Rhodes 22, it would have driven the CB right 
> >  through the cap and flooded the boat. 
> > No wonder Stan builds in  floatation. 
> > 
> > There must be a solution here.  
> > What holds the garden hose in place, anybody know? 
> >  
> > Ric 
> > Dadventure 
> > 
> >  
> > On Mar 6, 2014, at 9:58 PM, cjlowe at sssnet.com wrote: 
>  > 
> >> I have a different take on some of these issues, don't  know if I'm 
> >> right, 
> >> probably just a  different take. I think I remember someone on the 
list 
> >>  saying the pcv pieces slide on each side of the cb pin and act as a 
>  >> sacrificial bushing , so the stainless steel pivot pin doesn't eat  
> >> out the 
> >> fiberglass in the side and bottom  of the grove. Hope I didn't dream 
> >> that, 
> >>  because I spent a lot of time making them bushings, mine didn't have 
>  >> them. 
> >>   I'm not sure trying to limit the  cb's vertical movement is the best 
> >> idea. I'm thinking  anything you put in the channels has a chance of 
> >> falling out  and jambing the cb travel. Anything hard screwed in the 
> >>  channels has a good chance of tearing big holes in the cb trunk and 
>  >> taking out both sides of the cb cap. If you think fixing the cb cap  
> >> was 
> >> a pain, ask Lou how much fun it is to  do repairs inside the 
> >> centerboard 
> >> trunk.  
> >>   I'm thinking the best bet is to not anchor/moor  in shallow water, 
> >> don't 
> >> motor backward in  shallow water, and NEVER EVER splash the boat 
unless 
> >> the cb  pendant is cleated with the cb in the UP position. Any other 
> >>  ides 
> >> on this are more than welcome. 
> >>  
> >>     Jerry 
> >> 
>  >> 
> >> 
> >>> I have changed the title of  this exchange as it appear the topic has 
> >>> morphed  
> >>> from the matter of the mast post base to the question of  how the 
> >>> centreboard 
> >>> is attached  and how this might result in damage to the cap if the 
> >>>  centreboard is not held in the up position when launching. 
>  >>> 
> >>> My centreboard pivot pin rides in two  vertical channels in the 
> >>> housing 
> >>>  that 
> >>> are about 5" long. Those grooves are very clear in  the second photo 
> >>> that 
> >>> Rob 
>  >>> Lowe just posted. As I saw it, the channels would allow the pin  to 
be 
> >>> dropped down to the proper position without the  need to insert the 
> >>> pin 
> >>> from  
> >>> the outside of the housing.  It now occurs to  me  that this design 
> >>> might 
> >>>  also have been intended to allow the pivot pin to rise up inside the 
>  >>> housing 
> >>> should the centreboard hit  something. Makes sense although perhaps 
> >>> not if 
>  >>> this would allow the centreboard to damage the cap. 
>  >>> 
> >>> In my case two length of .5 inch rigid  PVC  pipe were placed in each 
> >>> channel 
>  >>> above the pin. It appears that these pipes were intended to  prevent 
> >>> the 
> >>> pin 
>  >>> from rising up. As I mentioned earlier, I was pretty sure that  the 
> >>> cap had 
> >>> never been removed and  assumed, therefore, that the pieces of pipe 
> >>> were  
> >>> part 
> >>> of the original design. Now I  am beginning to wonder if this was 
> >>> some kind 
>  >>> of retrofit by a previous owner who, perhaps, was responding to  
> >>> damage 
> >>> caused when the centreboard  was pushed into the cap. 
> >>> 
> >>> I am  inclined to leave the pieces of pipe out when I reinstall the 
>  >>> centreboard or perhaps search for something that might act as a  
shock 
> >>> absorber but still allow the board to raise up if  it hits a solid 
> >>> object. 
> >>> Perhaps  shorter lengths of flexible plastic tubing would work. 
> >>>  
> >>> Has anyone else found a similar arrangement in the pivot  pin 
channel? 
> >>> Any thoughts? 
> >>>  
> >>> Graham 
> >>> 
> >>>  
> >>> -----Original Message----- 
> >>> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org 
> >>>  [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Lowe, Rob 
>  >>> Sent: March-06-14 3:13 PM 
> >>> To: The Rhodes 22  Email List 
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Searching the  archives and settled 
> >>> step >now 
> >>>  mast step cb leak 
> >>> 
> >>> It seems like  there are various versions of CB and the lift 
> >>>  systems.  Here 
> >>> are some photos that someone (I  forgot who, sorry!) posted of their 
> >>> CB 
>  >>> taken 
> >>> apart. - rob 
> >>>  
> >>>  h
ttp://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200507/14/Getaway1.jpg  
> >>>  
http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attch/200507/14/Getaway2.jpg  
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
>  >>> -----Original Message----- 
> >>> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org 
> >>>  [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Ric Stott 
>  >>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 2:00 PM 
> >>> To:  The Rhodes 22 Email List 
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]  Searching the archives and settled 
> >>> step >now 
>  >>> mast step cb leak 
> >>> 
> >>>  Thanks Graham 
> >>> It might have been cracked when they  loaded it onto a trailer to 
> >>> launch 
> >>>  last 
> >>> spring and delivered it to me. 
>  >>> It was a transport trailer. 
> >>> Sam replied  that the pendant had to be cleated when trailered, or 
> >>> it  would 
> >>> cause a crack. 
> >>> I'd like to  understand the mechanics of that reply. 
> >>> Is the top or  aft edge of the CB that close to the cap, and what 
> >>>  component 
> >>> would allow it to move vertically, a hinge  pin? 
> >>> Is there a CB diagram anywhere? 
>  >>> I think it was leaking, but very little until later in the season  
> >>> then 
> >>> - after a storm, it got much  worse. 
> >>> The boat may have been on the bottom or bounced  on the bottom at a 
> >>> very 
> >>> low  
> >>> tide. 
> >>> I'll take it apart when it  warms up. 
> >>> Pendant - Braided nylon is very stretchy - is  that what we want? 
> >>> Ric 
> >>> 
>  >>> On Mar 6, 2014, at 1:24 PM, Graham Stewart wrote: 
>  >>> 
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