Gentlemen, can we please stop the sniping at one another?  No one is on this listserv because they want to read attacks and counter-attacks.

Peace, please.

Frank

Frank Goldsmith
S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
Fairview, NC
Lake Keowee, SC

> On Oct 29, 2023, at 2:32 PM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
> 
> Rick,
> 
> Boy, you sure do like to pigeon hole people you’ve never even met!  It’s not a very attractive characteristic.  I prefer to think of people as individuals and keep an open mind.
> 
> Roger Pihlaja
> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 29, 2023, at 1:29 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Roger,
>> 
>> We probably will meet since you can be a late arriving squeezer.  Your kind
>> seem to follow me around.
>> 
>> The MINIMUM anchor rode to water depth is 7:1.  That's when the bottom and
>> all night weather forecast are good.  And it doesn't matter whether the
>> rode comes off a toe rail chock or the bow eye, there is no way to cheat
>> physics in order to squeeze in.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Rick Lange
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 5:24 PM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Rick,
>>> 
>>> Boy, for somebody you've never met, you make a lot of assumptions about me
>>> and my boat.  First of all, my boat hook is always stored in a pair of
>>> Beckson Clipper Clips on the back wall of the cockpit just below the
>>> lazarette hatch.  I can easily find it in the dark.  Second, I always sleep
>>> with my camping headlight within easy reach.  Third, I always set a GPS
>>> anchor watch.  So, I would be awakened re a dragging anchor long before any
>>> of the boats around me noticed.  Actually, after many years of cruising,
>>> you get sensitive to the boat's motions and what a dragging anchor feels
>>> like.  The chances are, I'd be up on deck checking things out anyway.  I
>>> always take a couple of visual bearings on landmarks on shore to quickly
>>> detect if my boat has moved.  Fourth, the anchor rode is the only line
>>> extending out from the bow.  Even without my headlight, I could easily find
>>> it in the dark.  Just sweep the boat hook in front of the bow and it is
>>> bound to run into the anchor rode.
>>> 
>>> Look, this thread is really getting tiresome.  Anchor your boat however
>>> you please.  I'm just glad I don't have to deal with you in person.
>>> 
>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
>>> Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2023 12:09 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Anchoring
>>> 
>>> Yelling comes from boats downwind you are dragging toward just because you
>>> wanted to squeeze in by putting out too little rode.  And you're taking
>>> forever to find your boat hook in the dark and rain, and to fish for the
>>> rode you can't see underwater.
>>> 
>>> What's this about bringing the anchor aboard?  I'd rather walk into a
>>> Japanese home with my shoes on!  The anchor is to be kept outboard hanging
>>> from its bow rail bracket.  When just relocating in an anchorage, I also
>>> leave the mucky chain dangling outboard from the hanging anchor.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Rick Lange
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 5:23 PM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Rick,
>>>> 
>>>> What yelling?  You start the engine.  While it’s warming up, you walk to
>>>> the bow, and snag the anchor rode downstream of the carabiner with a boat
>>>> hook. You motor slowly forward while pulling in the anchor rode hand over
>>>> hand over the railing.  Note that you haven’t touched the bow cleat or
>>> the
>>>> carabiner.  When the anchor is aboard, you go and redeploy.  No muss, no
>>>> fuss.  I am just claiming that my technique makes it less likely the
>>> anchor
>>>> is going to drag.  Often, your suggested options of going someplace else
>>> or
>>>> going to shore are not available.  The Rhodes 22 has the advantage of
>>>> shallow draft and can often be anchored in a corner of the harbor where
>>> the
>>>> big boats can’t go.  We all have a vision of being alone in a pristine
>>>> anchorage.  But, that’s often not the reality.  Have you actually done
>>> much
>>>> anchoring out?  What do you propose to do if you’re not willing to anchor
>>>> in close quarters?  Remember, there are no slips available and it’s too
>>>> late to go somewhere else.
>>>> 
>>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>