Well said! Bickering is antithetical to sailing.

Shawn Boles
s/v Sweet Baboo

On Sun, Oct 29, 2023, 6:28 PM Frank Goldsmith <goldsmith.cf at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Gentlemen, can we please stop the sniping at one another?  No one is on
> this listserv because they want to read attacks and counter-attacks.
>
> Peace, please.
>
> Frank
>
> Frank Goldsmith
> S/V Mary Bess (Rhodes 22 1985/2001)
> Fairview, NC
> Lake Keowee, SC
>
>
> > On Oct 29, 2023, at 2:32 PM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Rick,
> >
> > Boy, you sure do like to pigeon hole people you’ve never even met!  It’s
> not a very attractive characteristic.  I prefer to think of people as
> individuals and keep an open mind.
> >
> > Roger Pihlaja
> > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Oct 29, 2023, at 1:29 PM, Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Roger,
> >>
> >> We probably will meet since you can be a late arriving squeezer.  Your
> kind
> >> seem to follow me around.
> >>
> >> The MINIMUM anchor rode to water depth is 7:1.  That's when the bottom
> and
> >> all night weather forecast are good.  And it doesn't matter whether the
> >> rode comes off a toe rail chock or the bow eye, there is no way to cheat
> >> physics in order to squeeze in.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Rick Lange
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 5:24 PM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Rick,
> >>>
> >>> Boy, for somebody you've never met, you make a lot of assumptions
> about me
> >>> and my boat.  First of all, my boat hook is always stored in a pair of
> >>> Beckson Clipper Clips on the back wall of the cockpit just below the
> >>> lazarette hatch.  I can easily find it in the dark.  Second, I always
> sleep
> >>> with my camping headlight within easy reach.  Third, I always set a GPS
> >>> anchor watch.  So, I would be awakened re a dragging anchor long
> before any
> >>> of the boats around me noticed.  Actually, after many years of
> cruising,
> >>> you get sensitive to the boat's motions and what a dragging anchor
> feels
> >>> like.  The chances are, I'd be up on deck checking things out anyway.
> I
> >>> always take a couple of visual bearings on landmarks on shore to
> quickly
> >>> detect if my boat has moved.  Fourth, the anchor rode is the only line
> >>> extending out from the bow.  Even without my headlight, I could easily
> find
> >>> it in the dark.  Just sweep the boat hook in front of the bow and it is
> >>> bound to run into the anchor rode.
> >>>
> >>> Look, this thread is really getting tiresome.  Anchor your boat however
> >>> you please.  I'm just glad I don't have to deal with you in person.
> >>>
> >>> Roger Pihlaja
> >>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> >>> Rick Lange <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2023 12:09 PM
> >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Anchoring
> >>>
> >>> Yelling comes from boats downwind you are dragging toward just because
> you
> >>> wanted to squeeze in by putting out too little rode.  And you're taking
> >>> forever to find your boat hook in the dark and rain, and to fish for
> the
> >>> rode you can't see underwater.
> >>>
> >>> What's this about bringing the anchor aboard?  I'd rather walk into a
> >>> Japanese home with my shoes on!  The anchor is to be kept outboard
> hanging
> >>> from its bow rail bracket.  When just relocating in an anchorage, I
> also
> >>> leave the mucky chain dangling outboard from the hanging anchor.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>> Rick Lange
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 5:23 PM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Rick,
> >>>>
> >>>> What yelling?  You start the engine.  While it’s warming up, you walk
> to
> >>>> the bow, and snag the anchor rode downstream of the carabiner with a
> boat
> >>>> hook. You motor slowly forward while pulling in the anchor rode hand
> over
> >>>> hand over the railing.  Note that you haven’t touched the bow cleat or
> >>> the
> >>>> carabiner.  When the anchor is aboard, you go and redeploy.  No muss,
> no
> >>>> fuss.  I am just claiming that my technique makes it less likely the
> >>> anchor
> >>>> is going to drag.  Often, your suggested options of going someplace
> else
> >>> or
> >>>> going to shore are not available.  The Rhodes 22 has the advantage of
> >>>> shallow draft and can often be anchored in a corner of the harbor
> where
> >>> the
> >>>> big boats can’t go.  We all have a vision of being alone in a pristine
> >>>> anchorage.  But, that’s often not the reality.  Have you actually done
> >>> much
> >>>> anchoring out?  What do you propose to do if you’re not willing to
> anchor
> >>>> in close quarters?  Remember, there are no slips available and it’s
> too
> >>>> late to go somewhere else.
> >>>>
> >>>> Roger Pihlaja
> >>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
>
>