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2024-01-28; 06:51:43 EST
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On a normal boat, yes, but not on a Rhodes 22. The keel is not strong enough to support the weight of the boat. This comes straight from Stan.See the original archive post
On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 6:13 AM Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com> wrote: > Don > I was taught just the opposite...and > From Practical Sailor > "Most of the weight should be on wooden blocks, with the stands serving > only for balance. Additionally, substantial weight on the keel prevents > shifting of the keel in a beam wind. According to ABYC, there should be at > least two blocking points; a single blocking point can allow the boat to > rock fore and aft.Feb 25, 2019" > > Reuben Mezrich > cell: 410-499-8922 > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > > > On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 6:11 PM Donald Simons via Rhodes22-list < > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: > > > Reuben, Although there are blocks under the keel, I understand that the > > weight of the boat needs to be on the jack stands. > > Don SimonsOld Forge, NY > > On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 01:35:24 PM EST, Reuben Mezrich < > > reuben.mezrich at gmail.com> wrote: > > > > So my boat finally got hauled (Holidays got in the way) and I'm now able > > to > > see the keel. As seen in the image about 2 inches of the aft portion hang > > down below the fixed portion of the keel....is this normal > > [image: image.png] > > Reuben Mezrich > > cell: 410-499-8922 > > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 6:49 PM Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com > > > > wrote: > > > > > Mike > > > Great point but.... > > > The same argument would be obtained with tasting the water. I'm not > sure, > > > given your argument, how you could ever determine the source of the > water > > > in the bilge > > > I"ve had the boat 3 years now and never had even a drop of water in the > > > bilge. > > > We had torrential rains this weekend and no new water collected in the > > > bilge. > > > Its a puzzle > > > --Reuben > > > > > > Reuben Mezrich > > > cell: 410-499-8922 > > > Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 4:34 PM Michael D. Weisner < > mweisner at ebsmed.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Hi Reuben, > > >> > > >> Testing the bilge for the presence of salt using a salinity meter > > sounded > > >> great until I thought about it a bit more. > > >> > > >> If salt water had ever been in the bilge, there would be salt left > after > > >> evaporation of the water. When a new source of water filled the bilge, > > the > > >> dried salt would contaminate the water, making it appear to have come > > from > > >> a leak below the waterline. This could explain why the salinity was > > greater > > >> than that of the body of water within which the boat floats. The > > salinity > > >> test may not have ruled out rain water intrusion. > > >> > > >> Mike > > >> s/v Wind Lass ('91) > > >> Nissequogue River, NY > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of > > >> Reuben Mezrich > > >> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2023 11:48 AM > > >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > > >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Water in the Cabin > > >> > > >> Ric > > >> I’m liking your sabotage theory more and more (I did win some races > last > > >> week). I measured the salinity and its seawater and besides we had > > >> torrential rain this weekend and no additional water came in. > > >> It’s time to remove that step and look at the center board trunk more > > >> carefully Reuben Mezrich > > >> Cell:410-499-8922 > > >> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay in Boston > > >> > > >> > On Dec 20, 2023, at 11:29 AM, Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > FRUSTRATING, RIGHT? > > >> > I’m thinking rain water or sabotage. > > >> > I’m having trouble with the idea that the cap could leak that much > - > > >> and then not leak at all. > > >> > Attached are photos of what happens when too much pressure is put on > > >> the centerboard cap. > > >> > When i inherited my ’84 rhodes, it had a crack in the cap right > above > > >> the pivot pin. > > >> > Obviously from the CB hitting the cap from the underside. > > >> > It leaked a little - about a quart or two per day. > > >> > I simply fiberglassed the crack and the leak stopped In the fall of > > >> > 2019, I retrieved the boat onto the trailer and it was initially too > > >> far back so I relaunched to move it forward. > > >> > I did not realize that a helper had released the CB pendant line so > it > > >> was free to drop as the boat came off the trailer. > > >> > Always check to be sure you CB is locked in the up position before > > >> launch -especially with the old style blade CB like mine. > > >> > As the boat slid into into the water, I heard an odd crunching sound > > as > > >> the boat first lifted then dropped again. > > >> > I did get the boat forward on the trailer and pulled it out before I > > >> realized what happened. > > >> > Once on the pavement, I noticed a huge amount of water drain from > the > > >> CB - scratching my head, I looked inside and nearly had a heart > attack. > > >> > > > >> > The photos explains what happed. > > >> > It took me all winter to fix it. > > >> > The CB and rudder are the two most vulnerable parts on a Rhodes 22. > > >> > Understand and Respect the way they work and always be careful when > > >> launching and when backing up in shallow water. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP > > >> > ric at stottarchitecture.com > > >> > O -631-283-1777 > > >> > C- 516-965-3164 > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >> On Dec 20, 2023, at 10:37 AM, Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com > > > > >> wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> Reuben, > > >> >> > > >> >> That doesn't sound like a crazy idea to me... > > >> >> > > >> >> Peter Nyberg > > >> >> Coventry, CT > > >> >> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > > >> >> > > >> >>>> On 2023-12-20, at 08:56:56 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: > > >> >>> > > >> >>> In casting about for possible causes of the rather large (~2ft, to > > >> >>> the top of the settee) flood into my boat I started wondering > about > > >> >>> the swing keel...in particular, what happens when the boat lies on > > >> >>> the ground? The day of my flood had a particularly low tide, in > part > > >> >>> because of winds pushing water out of the bay. I suspect my boat > > >> >>> spent some time lying on the mud at the bottom of my slip and I'm > > >> >>> wondering if that might have pushed the swing keel up into the top > > >> >>> of the centerboard trunk, possibly flexing it and causing a leak. > > >> >>> Given the 50 or so screws that hold the top down that is unlikely > > >> >>> but..... The boat is floating now and I can't find a leak (thru > > >> >>> hulls are OK and I don't see water on top of the centerboard > trunk). > > >> ...so I"m grasping at straws. > > >> >>> --Reuben > > >> >>> Reuben Mezrich > > >> >>> cell: 410-499-8922 > > >> >>> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was > > >> > scrubbed... > > >> > Name: IMG_2667.jpeg > > >> > Type: image/jpeg > > >> > Size: 106876 bytes > > >> > Desc: not available > > >> > URL: > > >> > < > > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20231220/6230 > > >> > dca0/attachment.jpeg> > > >> > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was > > >> > scrubbed... > > >> > Name: IMG_2665.jpeg > > >> > Type: image/jpeg > > >> > Size: 144731 bytes > > >> > Desc: not available > > >> > URL: < > > >> > > > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20231220/6230dca0/attachment-0001.jpeg > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > -------------- next part -------------- > > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > > Name: image.png > > Type: image/png > > Size: 305494 bytes > > Desc: not available > > URL: < > > > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240127/dcacb660/attachment.png > > > > > > > >
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