< prior
Back to Month
Go to Thread
2024-02-03; 06:12:25 EST
Member Since
2020-01-16
Posts: 132
I'm looking at a Tohatsu 8hp electric start....weighs about 85 lbs so its not so bad, but only comes in 20" shaft --Reuben Reuben Mezrich cell: 410-499-8922 Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, BostonSee the original archive post
On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 5:28 PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote: > HI Graham > It depends on your motor mount and what conditions you sail in. > If you have an original GB slider type you will probably need a 25” Extra > Long Shaft. > That is what I use and it works well except in big waves down wind, the > prop sometimes spins out of the water briefly. > Do no buy a short shaft for a sailboat. > Ric > SV Dadventure > 4 stoke motors are heavy, so be prepared. >  > Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP > ric at stottarchitecture.com > O -631-283-1777 > C- 516-965-3164 > > > > > On Feb 2, 2024, at 3:32 PM, Graham Stewart <gstewart.gm at gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > 20”. > > > > Graham Stewart > > gstewart.gm at gmail.com > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 9:30 AM Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> Turns out the lithium battery (4kwh) and charger that was located under > the > >> aft portion of the V-berth was partially submerged and the dealer > (Mastry) > >> has determined that both were ruined and have to be replaced. the cost > of > >> that is ~$3,000 which is substantially more than an 8 or 9hp Tohatsu > >> outboard with electric start would be So...i think its time for me to > give > >> up on electric outboards and go with a conventional gas outboard. > >> My question is what size shaft do I want....15" or 20" > >> > >> Reuben Mezrich > >> cell: 410-499-8922 > >> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > >> > >> > >> On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 1:09 PM Graham Stewart <gstewart.gm at gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> When I bought my 1876 boat in about 1995, the previous owner had added > a > >>> plank to the trailer that supported the keel. I continued with that, as > >>> it seemed to make sense, but discovered a few years later that I had a > >>> massive crack in the bottom of the keel that completely encircled the > >>> centerboard slot. You could only see it when directly under the keel > >>> without the plank in place. > >>> > >>> Fixing the crack was a massive job. I first had to build a huge lift so > >>> that I could suspend the boat high enough to work under it. Because of > >>> the crack, water had penetrated the keel and hollowed out the material > >>> that was inside. Glassing the bottom was a problem as the cloth > >>> thickness narrowed the slot such that the centerboard would not fit. > >>> Ultimately I had to drill holes down into the keel from inside the > cabin > >>> into which I poured 3 gallons of resin. I also injected resin through > >>> the sides of the keel into voids that I found by soundings. > >>> > >>> Believe me, this is a repair that you want to avoid. > >>> > >>> > >>> Graham Stewart > >>> > >>> Agile 1976 > >>> > >>> On 1/28/2024 12:38 PM, Donald Simons via Rhodes22-list wrote: > >>>> I've looked through the documentation on our boat and can't find the > >>> information you are interested in. I believe there has been a previous > >>> discussion of this topic on the list. Perhaps you can find what you > are > >>> looking for there. > >>>> Owners who have a trailer can see that the boat is supported on the > >>> bunks, not on the keel. > >>>> Don Simons, Old Forge, NY > >>>> On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 09:38:13 AM EST, Reuben Mezrich< > >>> reuben.mezrich at gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Is there any documentation that I can bring to the boatyard....I > >>> suspect > >>>> they won't believe it > >>>> --Reuben > >>>> Reuben Mezrich > >>>> cell: 410-499-8922 > >>>> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 6:58 AM Hank<hnw555 at gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On a normal boat, yes, but not on a Rhodes 22. The keel is not strong > >>>>> enough to support the weight of the boat. This comes straight from > >> Stan. > >>>>> > >>>>> On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 6:13 AM Reuben Mezrich< > >> reuben.mezrich at gmail.com > >>>> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Don > >>>>>> I was taught just the opposite...and > >>>>>> From Practical Sailor > >>>>>> "Most of the weight should be on wooden blocks, with the stands > >> serving > >>>>>> only for balance. Additionally, substantial weight on the keel > >> prevents > >>>>>> shifting of the keel in a beam wind. According to ABYC, there should > >> be > >>>>> at > >>>>>> least two blocking points; a single blocking point can allow the > boat > >>> to > >>>>>> rock fore and aft.Feb 25, 2019" > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Reuben Mezrich > >>>>>> cell: 410-499-8922 > >>>>>> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 6:11 PM Donald Simons via Rhodes22-list < > >>>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Reuben, Although there are blocks under the keel, I understand > >>> that > >>>>> the > >>>>>>> weight of the boat needs to be on the jack stands. > >>>>>>> Don SimonsOld Forge, NY > >>>>>>> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 01:35:24 PM EST, Reuben > >> Mezrich > >>> < > >>>>>>> reuben.mezrich at gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> So my boat finally got hauled (Holidays got in the way) and I'm > >> now > >>>>> able > >>>>>>> to > >>>>>>> see the keel. As seen in the image about 2 inches of the aft > portion > >>>>> hang > >>>>>>> down below the fixed portion of the keel....is this normal > >>>>>>> [image: image.png] > >>>>>>> Reuben Mezrich > >>>>>>> cell: 410-499-8922 > >>>>>>> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 6:49 PM Reuben Mezrich < > >>>>> reuben.mezrich at gmail.com > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Mike > >>>>>>>> Great point but.... > >>>>>>>> The same argument would be obtained with tasting the water. I'm > not > >>>>>> sure, > >>>>>>>> given your argument, how you could ever determine the source of > the > >>>>>> water > >>>>>>>> in the bilge > >>>>>>>> I"ve had the boat 3 years now and never had even a drop of water > in > >>>>> the > >>>>>>>> bilge. > >>>>>>>> We had torrential rains this weekend and no new water collected in > >>>>> the > >>>>>>>> bilge. > >>>>>>>> Its a puzzle > >>>>>>>> --Reuben > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Reuben Mezrich > >>>>>>>> cell: 410-499-8922 > >>>>>>>> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 4:34 PM Michael D. Weisner < > >>>>>> mweisner at ebsmed.com> > >>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Hi Reuben, > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Testing the bilge for the presence of salt using a salinity meter > >>>>>>> sounded > >>>>>>>>> great until I thought about it a bit more. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> If salt water had ever been in the bilge, there would be salt > left > >>>>>> after > >>>>>>>>> evaporation of the water. When a new source of water filled the > >>>>> bilge, > >>>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> dried salt would contaminate the water, making it appear to have > >>>>> come > >>>>>>> from > >>>>>>>>> a leak below the waterline. This could explain why the salinity > >> was > >>>>>>> greater > >>>>>>>>> than that of the body of water within which the boat floats. The > >>>>>>> salinity > >>>>>>>>> test may not have ruled out rain water intrusion. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Mike > >>>>>>>>> s/v Wind Lass ('91) > >>>>>>>>> Nissequogue River, NY > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list<rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On > >> Behalf > >>>>> Of > >>>>>>>>> Reuben Mezrich > >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2023 11:48 AM > >>>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Water in the Cabin > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Ric > >>>>>>>>> I’m liking your sabotage theory more and more (I did win some > >> races > >>>>>> last > >>>>>>>>> week). I measured the salinity and its seawater and besides we > had > >>>>>>>>> torrential rain this weekend and no additional water came in. > >>>>>>>>> It’s time to remove that step and look at the center board trunk > >>>>> more > >>>>>>>>> carefully Reuben Mezrich > >>>>>>>>> Cell:410-499-8922 > >>>>>>>>> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay in Boston > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 2023, at 11:29 AM, Ric Stott < > >>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com> > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>> FRUSTRATING, RIGHT? > >>>>>>>>>> I’m thinking rain water or sabotage. > >>>>>>>>>> I’m having trouble with the idea that the cap could leak that > >>>>> much > >>>>>> - > >>>>>>>>> and then not leak at all. > >>>>>>>>>> Attached are photos of what happens when too much pressure is > put > >>>>> on > >>>>>>>>> the centerboard cap. > >>>>>>>>>> When i inherited my ’84 rhodes, it had a crack in the cap right > >>>>>> above > >>>>>>>>> the pivot pin. > >>>>>>>>>> Obviously from the CB hitting the cap from the underside. > >>>>>>>>>> It leaked a little - about a quart or two per day. > >>>>>>>>>> I simply fiberglassed the crack and the leak stopped In the fall > >>>>> of > >>>>>>>>>> 2019, I retrieved the boat onto the trailer and it was initially > >>>>> too > >>>>>>>>> far back so I relaunched to move it forward. > >>>>>>>>>> I did not realize that a helper had released the CB pendant line > >>>>> so > >>>>>> it > >>>>>>>>> was free to drop as the boat came off the trailer. > >>>>>>>>>> Always check to be sure you CB is locked in the up position > >>>>> before > >>>>>>>>> launch -especially with the old style blade CB like mine. > >>>>>>>>>> As the boat slid into into the water, I heard an odd crunching > >>>>> sound > >>>>>>> as > >>>>>>>>> the boat first lifted then dropped again. > >>>>>>>>>> I did get the boat forward on the trailer and pulled it out > >>>>> before I > >>>>>>>>> realized what happened. > >>>>>>>>>> Once on the pavement, I noticed a huge amount of water drain > from > >>>>>> the > >>>>>>>>> CB - scratching my head, I looked inside and nearly had a heart > >>>>>> attack. > >>>>>>>>>> The photos explains what happed. > >>>>>>>>>> It took me all winter to fix it. > >>>>>>>>>> The CB and rudder are the two most vulnerable parts on a Rhodes > >>>>> 22. > >>>>>>>>>> Understand and Respect the way they work and always be careful > >>>>> when > >>>>>>>>> launching and when backing up in shallow water. > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Richard F. Stott, AIA, LEED AP > >>>>>>>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com > >>>>>>>>>> O -631-283-1777 > >>>>>>>>>> C- 516-965-3164 > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 20, 2023, at 10:37 AM, Peter Nyberg < > >>>>> peter at sunnybeeches.com > >>>>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> Reuben, > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> That doesn't sound like a crazy idea to me... > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Peter Nyberg > >>>>>>>>>>> Coventry, CT > >>>>>>>>>>> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016) > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-12-20, at 08:56:56 EST, Reuben Mezrich wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> In casting about for possible causes of the rather large > (~2ft, > >>>>> to > >>>>>>>>>>>> the top of the settee) flood into my boat I started wondering > >>>>>> about > >>>>>>>>>>>> the swing keel...in particular, what happens when the boat > lies > >>>>> on > >>>>>>>>>>>> the ground? The day of my flood had a particularly low tide, > in > >>>>>> part > >>>>>>>>>>>> because of winds pushing water out of the bay. I suspect my > >> boat > >>>>>>>>>>>> spent some time lying on the mud at the bottom of my slip and > >>>>> I'm > >>>>>>>>>>>> wondering if that might have pushed the swing keel up into the > >>>>> top > >>>>>>>>>>>> of the centerboard trunk, possibly flexing it and causing a > >>>>> leak. > >>>>>>>>>>>> Given the 50 or so screws that hold the top down that is > >>>>> unlikely > >>>>>>>>>>>> but..... The boat is floating now and I can't find a leak > (thru > >>>>>>>>>>>> hulls are OK and I don't see water on top of the centerboard > >>>>>> trunk). > >>>>>>>>> ...so I"m grasping at straws. > >>>>>>>>>>>> --Reuben > >>>>>>>>>>>> Reuben Mezrich > >>>>>>>>>>>> cell: 410-499-8922 > >>>>>>>>>>>> Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment > was > >>>>>>>>>> scrubbed... > >>>>>>>>>> Name: IMG_2667.jpeg > >>>>>>>>>> Type: image/jpeg > >>>>>>>>>> Size: 106876 bytes > >>>>>>>>>> Desc: not available > >>>>>>>>>> URL: > >>>>>>>>>> < > >>>>>>> > >> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20231220/6230 > >>>>>>>>>> dca0/attachment.jpeg> > >>>>>>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment > was > >>>>>>>>>> scrubbed... > >>>>>>>>>> Name: IMG_2665.jpeg > >>>>>>>>>> Type: image/jpeg > >>>>>>>>>> Size: 144731 bytes > >>>>>>>>>> Desc: not available > >>>>>>>>>> URL: < > >>>>> > >>> > >> > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20231220/6230dca0/attachment-0001.jpeg > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- > >>>>>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > >>>>>>> Name: image.png > >>>>>>> Type: image/png > >>>>>>> Size: 305494 bytes > >>>>>>> Desc: not available > >>>>>>> URL: < > >>>>>>> > >>>>> > >>> > >> > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240127/dcacb660/attachment.png > >>>>>>> > >>>> > >>> -- > >>> Graham Stewart gstewart.gm at gmail.com > >>> > >> > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_7233.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 167295 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: < > http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20240202/f0e4e3b7/attachment.jpeg > > >
To use your email application to send a messsage to the webmaster rather than this form, .
Your post is being sent... 