Postings may be declining, but the group has been invaluable to me. Our purchase of Crimson Cloud almost three years ago was supposed to be a tlc project. After a little exploration we found termite infestation and rotted stringers under the cabin floor. All sole and cabin furnishings had to be replaced, and stringers repaired and re-glassed.
The cockpit deck had rotted core and had to be rebuilt. Then hurricane Ian floated her off the trailer and broke the centerboard and caused several fiberglass crunches. She is now mostly repaired and repainted. (currently repairing gelcoat dings, old holes, and spider cracks) The interior has been remade and ready to install as soon as I get her boatlift in order. We can't install the new centerboard until we put her on a lift because it hangs proud of the keel and the keel has a roller under it on the old trailer she came on. So, we hope to find out if she floats this week. We'll get her on my lift, pull the trunk cap (again), install the centerboard, and then put the cabin back together.
 That was a long-winded explanation but I wanted to reinforce how important the group has been to me. All of the work done was crosschecked by me exploring the archives, posting questions, and just lurking about the current postings. Thank you all. (and youtube) We were thinking about calling her the red onion because every time we peeled a layer off there was another waiting. Settled on Perserverance.
 On a side note to Reuben, Did you determine what caused your water infiltration a short while back? I have been chasing freshwater infiltration all this time as I want her to be tight when we do get her back in the water. It can be maddening. I BELIEVE we have everything in order now. The side cubbies in the cockpit have drain holes that let water into the area under the deck and foam flotation. That water then finds its way to the bilge under the cabin floor. I think that's my last leak and appears to be one that I'll have to put up with.
Best,
Barry Ruehlen
S/V Perserverance '87
St. James City, Fl

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From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Reuben Mezrich <reuben.mezrich at gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2024 5:44 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] The List Seems to be Fading Away

I am also a member of the Island Packet mail list and it has seen the same
- actually worse - decline in activity...In its heyday  there were as many
as 10 postings each day...now there aren't more than a few per month. There
is however  very active Facebook group  and many of those who used to post
on the mail list can now be found on Facebook...but the activity is
different...The mail list was devoted to solving problems and giving advice
on new parts or new techniques or where to get a part...the facebook page
has some of that but mostly has pictures of friends sitting in cockpit or
nice dinners being served in the galley...much less of what the "old salts"
used to talk about....seems that you can't go back again

Reuben Mezrich
cell: 410-499-8922
Pelican Cove in Sarasota and Back Bay, Boston


On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 4:51 PM Peter Nyberg <peter at sunnybeeches.com> wrote:

> Thank you to those who shared their thoughts on this topic.
>
> Clearly it's true that people sell their boats for whatever reason, and
> the former owners generally no longer participate in the list.  But if a
> boat has been sold, there's now a new owner, and a new potential list
> member.  It seems though that fewer new owners are choosing to join our
> community.
>
> Several people mentioned their age as part of their decision to sell their
> boat, which underscores the point that boat buyers will generally be
> younger than boat sellers.  This may be a factor in the list's declining
> participation numbers.  I've read that kids these days (probably meaning
> anyone younger that around 60) don't like to use email much.
>
> So, that's really the questing that's been rattling around in my brain
> lately: is the size or level of engagement in our community declining due
> (at least in part) to the fact that it is based on a technology (email)
> whose popularity is also declining?
>
> I offer one point of evidence for this proposition: Nabble.  As you may
> recall, Nabble was a 3rd party website that provided a web interface to the
> Rhodes 22 email list.  There were never any hard numbers about how many
> people were using Nabble to participate, rather than using an email client
> app, but it was clearly pretty popular.  On the downside, we never had any
> control over what Nabble did, and towards the end of June of 2021, it just
> went away.  That month had a total of 384 posts.  The most active month
> since (October 2021) had 230 posts, and that was something of an outlier.
> As I pointed out in the post that started this thread, in 2023 our average
> posts per month was 86.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> On a related point, I don't have a Facebook account.  Can someone comment
> on how active the Rhodes 22 Facebook group has been lately?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Peter Nyberg
> Coventry, CT
> s/v Silverheels (1988/2016)
>
> > On 2024-03-08, at 17:17:49 EST, Peter Nyberg wrote:
> >
> > If you've thought that traffic on the Rhodes 22 email list has been a
> little on
> > the light side lately, you're not imagining things.  Message volume has
> been
> > declining for some time.  Below are the figures for average monthly
> posts for
> > the last few calendar years:
> >
> > 2020 - 229 posts/month
> > 2021 - 216
> > 2022 - 126
> > 2023 - 86
> >
> > 2024 has not exactly been off to a roaring start with 38 posts in
> January and 35
> > in February.
> >
> > Back in 2008, there were over 1,000 posts/month, but things fell off to
> only
> > around 400 in 2009 after political posts were discouraged.
> >
> > I'm hoping to start a discussion about possible causes and possible
> remedies.  I
> > have a few thoughts, but I don't want to start by steering the
> discussion in any
> > particular direction.
> >
> > So, what do you think is causing the decline, and what do you think we
> might be
> > able to do about it?
> >
> > Peter Nyberg
> > Coventry, CT
> > s/v Silverheels (198/2016)
> >
>
>