Hi Matt,
So the line from the bottom of the mooring ball is leading to the anchor? I like to use all chain with a shackle and swivel at the mooring ball. It it somewhat controversial whether to use a swivel or not and where to put it. I like to put it at the mooring ball because I can inspect it and replace it relatively easily.
I’m surprised the owners of your mooring field don’t have their own rigging guidelines.
Roger Pihlaja
S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
1978. Sanford, MI
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> On Jun 8, 2024, at 11:21 PM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thanks guys,
>> What’s the best way to attach a line to the bottom of the mooring ball. A
> metal shackle and bowline? Anchor hitch?
>> The fiberglass appears to be totally intact. I never found the U ring but
> one of the bolts was still in there broken cleanly some rust present the
> backing plate on my 1990 boat appears to be wood and there was no metal
> plate present either on the outside or inside. We had a sudden gust about
> 40mph maybe a bit more on a windy but sunny day. Thanks for the warning on
> the glass. I’ll look again more closely tomorrow but I didn’t see anything
> as I was installing the new one.
>>>>> On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 7:56 PM Graham Stewart <gstewart.gm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I would go with a double line (3/8 or larger) that goes through the chocks
>> to the bow cleat. I would not use the bow ring.
>> Graham Stewart
>>gstewart.gm at gmail.com>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 5:05 PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Thank you Stewart,
>>>>>> I know these are general boating questions so thanks for the help. What
>>> size and type of line would you recommend?
>>>>>> Matt Wilson
>>> Hornblower II
>>> White Bear Lake MN
>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 3:41 PM Graham Stewart <gstewart.gm at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Are you connecting the bow ring to the mooring with chain alone? If so,
>>> you
>>>> run the risk of wearing right through the metal hardware or chain. The
>>>> connection to the boat should always use lines. You can add a snuber
>> for
>>>> shock reduction.
>>>>>>>> Graham Stewart
>>>>gstewart.gm at gmail.com>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 1:04 PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Sorry everyone,
>>>>>>>>>> I spent a few hours putting in a new, heavier bow ring and then we
>> had
>>>>> folks out for a stunning sunset sail.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes the ring that attaches the boat to the trailer. That ring was
>>>> attached
>>>>> to my mooring and broke from fatigue during a 40 mph sustained gust.
>> I
>>>> use
>>>>> a chain on a mooring on a fairly large MN lake. It’s mostly
>> sheltered
>>>> but
>>>>> when those SE breezes come up there is about 1.5 mi of open water so
>>>> there
>>>>> can be a fair amount of wave action on top of sustained 20mph winds
>> at
>>>>> times.
>>>>>>>>>> Should I be concerned that the boat fiberglass could be damaged? Any
>>>>> thoughts on some kind of spring or a better set up?
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much,
>>>>> Matt Wilson
>>>>> HornblowerII
>>>>> White Bear Lake, MN
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2024 at 4:13 PM ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Larry,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you referring to the ring on the bow which is used to winch the
>>>> boat
>>>>>> onto the trailer? Does the bow have a big hole where the ring used
>>> to
>>>>> be?
>>>>>> What sort of conditions did it take to do that? What are you going
>>> to
>>>>> have
>>>>>> to do to repair ?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does your boat have bow line chocks? If yes, then just route the
>>>> mooring
>>>>>> line from the bow cleat thru the line chock and down to the mooring
>>>> buoy.
>>>>>> You could rig a bridle thru each line chock. But, the boat won’t
>>> ride
>>>>> too
>>>>>> far off center with just one. I wouldn’t bother with rigging the
>> 2nd
>>>>>> line. I presume this will be temporary?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Roger Pihlaja
>>>>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>>>>>> 1978. Sanford, MI
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 7, 2024, at 3:36 PM, Larry Gioia via Rhodes22-list <
>>>>>>rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've seen setups where a yoke is created by a line tied at each
>>> end
>>>>> to
>>>>>> the 2 foredeck cleats and leading around the bow, connected to a
>>>> separate
>>>>>> line that goes to the mooring.
>>>>>>> And I am curious about that sheared bow ring.
>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>> On Friday, June 7, 2024 at 03:29:27 PM EDT, Matt Wilson <
>>>>>>mwhornblower at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just had a bow ring shear off during a storm. Any advice on
>>>> mooring
>>>>>> to a
>>>>>>> buoy without one…just using the foredeck cleat.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Much appreciated,
>>>>>>> Matt Wilson
>>>>>>> Hornblower II
>>>>>>> White Bear Lake, MN
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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