Lou,

It seems to be a different boat. It is named Argo, and has a navy blue hull.

Thanks,
John

On Wed, May 7, 2025 at 11:44 AM Lou Rosenberg <lsr3 at nyu.edu> wrote:

> John Farmer,
> Does this R22 have a faded orange paint on hull?
> Any name?
> I sold my R22 "Miracles " in 2017
> It's been in Mill Basin @ BayEnd marina.
> Contact me if this is same boat.
> Lou
>
> Troy, NY
>
> On Tue, May 6, 2025, 11:54 PM <rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org> wrote:
>
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> > Today's Topics:
> >
> >    1. Re: Tips on removing motor lift? (THOMAS POLISE)
> >    2. Re: Tips on removing motor lift? (ROGER PIHLAJA)
> >    3. Re: Tips on removing motor lift? (Michael D. Weisner)
> >    4. Where to source parts for a project R22? (John Farmer)
> >    5. Re: Where to source parts for a project R22? (Cindy Spitzer)
> >    6. Re: Where to source parts for a project R22? (Michael D. Weisner)
> >    7. Re: Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4596, Issue 1 (David Worth)
> >    8. 1993 RHODES 22 FOR SALE (David Worth)
> >    9. Re: Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4596, Issue 1 (David Worth)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 13:05:58 -0400
> > From: THOMAS POLISE <tvpolise at aol.com>
> > To: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Cc: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tips on removing motor lift?
> > Message-ID: <0C1004AE-5FE0-443B-A469-671C590828E8 at aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> > I?m interested in this conversion also, can you send a link or catalog
> cut
> > on the manual lift?
> >
> > > On Apr 20, 2025, at 10:57?PM, Rosie Krueger <rosie.krueger at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > ?Hello all,
> > >
> > > We're planning to remove the electric motor lift from our 2007 Rhodes
> and
> > > install a Panther manual adjustable bracket instead. Before we proceed
> > with
> > > the project, I am wondering if anyone has any tips about removing the
> > > electric lift setup.  I read through the "Converting Electric Winch
> Motor
> > > Lift to a Manual System" thread, but that mostly seems to involve
> > changing
> > > the method of power for the existing lift tracks, rather than removing
> > them
> > > entirely.
> > >
> > > We have a few reasons for switching.  Like others who made the manual
> > > conversion, we don't like the vulnerability of relying on the
> electrical
> > > system in a moment when we might really need the motor.  But worse, the
> > top
> > > of the existing lift system significantly interferes with the tiller
> > handle
> > > on our ePropulsion Spirit electric outboard.  The tiller handle folds
> up
> > a
> > > bit, but not far enough to allow the outboard down as far as it could
> go,
> > > even with the tilt set as far back as possible.  We've also found that
> > the
> > > current positioning allows potential for the outboard and rudder to
> > > collide. The Panther bracket should push the motor far enough off the
> > back
> > > of the boat to resolve that issue.  We did consider getting the
> > epropulsion
> > > throttle controller for the outboard, but that was about 2x the cost of
> > the
> > > panther bracket and wouldn't have solved the motor/rudder issue.  (We
> > > already had the tiller controller from our prior boat - if you're
> > > considering buying this outboard for an R22, definitely just go with
> the
> > > throttle controller from the start).  With the light weight of the
> > > ePropulsion, we also don't particularly need any of the assistance from
> > > either the electric lift or a manual pulley conversion.
> > >
> > > Anyway, all of these reasons have us feeling confident in making the
> > > switch.  However, I never feel confident messing with holes in the
> hull.
> > It
> > > seems like it should be just a matter of unscrewing the screws on the
> > > tracks from inside the lazarette, but I'm not sure if there's any
> > adhesive
> > > or other surprises awaiting us after that...So, if you've ever taken
> the
> > > lift tracks off and have any advice about the process, please send them
> > my
> > > way!
> > >
> > > Also, assuming the process goes successfully, we'll have a used
> electric
> > > motor lift to part with - feel free to reach out if that's of interest
> to
> > > you!
> > >
> > > Happy Spring!
> > > Rosie
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2025 06:07:11 +0000
> > From: ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com>
> > To: THOMAS POLISE <tvpolise at aol.com>, The Rhodes Email List
> >         <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tips on removing motor lift?
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> >
> BY5PR10MB38252FE9A01AB6722479CAEC80BB2 at BY5PR10MB3825.namprd10.prod.outlook.com
> > >
> >
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Hi Thomas,
> >
> > I bought the manual lift back in 2011 direct from GBI.  You would have to
> > check with Cindy Spitzer to see if they have any more stock or if they
> have
> > conversion kits.  If they don?t have any stock; then, it?s just takes a
> > couple of Harken side-by-side 3 sheave blocks, a cam cleat, and some
> 5/16?
> > line to build your own, assuming you already have an electric GBI motor
> > mount to convert.
> >
> > Roger Pihlaja
> > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> > 1978. Sanford, MI
> >
> > As Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Apr 21, 2025, at 1:06?PM, THOMAS POLISE via Rhodes22-list <
> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> > > ?I?m interested in this conversion also, can you send a link or catalog
> > cut on the manual lift?
> > >
> > >> On Apr 20, 2025, at 10:57?PM, Rosie Krueger <rosie.krueger at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ?Hello all,
> > >>
> > >> We're planning to remove the electric motor lift from our 2007 Rhodes
> > and
> > >> install a Panther manual adjustable bracket instead. Before we proceed
> > with
> > >> the project, I am wondering if anyone has any tips about removing the
> > >> electric lift setup.  I read through the "Converting Electric Winch
> > Motor
> > >> Lift to a Manual System" thread, but that mostly seems to involve
> > changing
> > >> the method of power for the existing lift tracks, rather than removing
> > them
> > >> entirely.
> > >>
> > >> We have a few reasons for switching.  Like others who made the manual
> > >> conversion, we don't like the vulnerability of relying on the
> electrical
> > >> system in a moment when we might really need the motor.  But worse,
> the
> > top
> > >> of the existing lift system significantly interferes with the tiller
> > handle
> > >> on our ePropulsion Spirit electric outboard.  The tiller handle folds
> > up a
> > >> bit, but not far enough to allow the outboard down as far as it could
> > go,
> > >> even with the tilt set as far back as possible.  We've also found that
> > the
> > >> current positioning allows potential for the outboard and rudder to
> > >> collide. The Panther bracket should push the motor far enough off the
> > back
> > >> of the boat to resolve that issue.  We did consider getting the
> > epropulsion
> > >> throttle controller for the outboard, but that was about 2x the cost
> of
> > the
> > >> panther bracket and wouldn't have solved the motor/rudder issue.  (We
> > >> already had the tiller controller from our prior boat - if you're
> > >> considering buying this outboard for an R22, definitely just go with
> the
> > >> throttle controller from the start).  With the light weight of the
> > >> ePropulsion, we also don't particularly need any of the assistance
> from
> > >> either the electric lift or a manual pulley conversion.
> > >>
> > >> Anyway, all of these reasons have us feeling confident in making the
> > >> switch.  However, I never feel confident messing with holes in the
> > hull. It
> > >> seems like it should be just a matter of unscrewing the screws on the
> > >> tracks from inside the lazarette, but I'm not sure if there's any
> > adhesive
> > >> or other surprises awaiting us after that...So, if you've ever taken
> the
> > >> lift tracks off and have any advice about the process, please send
> them
> > my
> > >> way!
> > >>
> > >> Also, assuming the process goes successfully, we'll have a used
> electric
> > >> motor lift to part with - feel free to reach out if that's of interest
> > to
> > >> you!
> > >>
> > >> Happy Spring!
> > >> Rosie
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2025 16:16:00 -0400
> > From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Tips on removing motor lift?
> > Message-ID: <002001dbb61e$dd953960$98bfac20$@ebsmed.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > Rosie,
> >
> > Are you willing to sell the electric winch "package"? I am interested in
> > it.
> >
> > Mike
> > s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> > Nissequogue River, NY
> > I?d rather be sailing :~)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> > Rosie Krueger
> > Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2025 11:10 AM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Tips on removing motor lift?
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > We're planning to remove the electric motor lift from our 2007 Rhodes and
> > install a Panther manual adjustable bracket instead. Before we proceed
> with
> > the project, I am wondering if anyone has any tips about removing the
> > electric lift setup.  I read through the "Converting Electric Winch Motor
> > Lift to a Manual System" thread, but that mostly seems to involve
> changing
> > the method of power for the existing lift tracks, rather than removing
> them
> > entirely.
> >
> > We have a few reasons for switching.  Like others who made the manual
> > conversion, we don't like the vulnerability of relying on the electrical
> > system in a moment when we might really need the motor.  But worse, the
> top
> > of the existing lift system significantly interferes with the tiller
> handle
> > on our ePropulsion Spirit electric outboard.  The tiller handle folds up
> a
> > bit, but not far enough to allow the outboard down as far as it could go,
> > even with the tilt set as far back as possible.  We've also found that
> the
> > current positioning allows potential for the outboard and rudder to
> > collide. The Panther bracket should push the motor far enough off the
> back
> > of the boat to resolve that issue.  We did consider getting the
> epropulsion
> > throttle controller for the outboard, but that was about 2x the cost of
> the
> > panther bracket and wouldn't have solved the motor/rudder issue.  (We
> > already had the tiller controller from our prior boat - if you're
> > considering buying this outboard for an
> >  R22, definitely just go with the throttle controller from the start).
> > With the light weight of the ePropulsion, we also don't particularly need
> > any of the assistance from either the electric lift or a manual pulley
> > conversion.
> >
> > Anyway, all of these reasons have us feeling confident in making the
> > switch.  However, I never feel confident messing with holes in the hull.
> It
> > seems like it should be just a matter of unscrewing the screws on the
> > tracks from inside the lazarette, but I'm not sure if there's any
> adhesive
> > or other surprises awaiting us after that...So, if you've ever taken the
> > lift tracks off and have any advice about the process, please send them
> my
> > way!
> >
> > Also, assuming the process goes successfully, we'll have a used electric
> > motor lift to part with - feel free to reach out if that's of interest to
> > you!
> >
> > Happy Spring!
> > Rosie
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2025 17:33:33 -0400
> > From: John Farmer <johnfarmer87 at gmail.com>
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Where to source parts for a project R22?
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAE70t6_mNQN49ifHW+Hae5T0YQ2Px1dOWoz_1s7=
> > Ro6etXMWcQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I found an R22 for sale that has been sitting in a saltwater slip in New
> > York, unmaintained, for at least 8 years, although pictures show a clean
> > interior and brand new sails in the bag. The seller says he will pay for
> a
> > new bottom paint job. I'm having it inspected before buying, and
> anticipate
> > a bunch of stuff will need to be replaced which leads me to my questions:
> >
> > Is it easy or difficult to source parts? Are there any resources I should
> > be aware of, both for purchasing parts and also for help troubleshooting
> > installation issues?
> >
> > Thanks very much,
> > John
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2025 18:05:40 -0400
> > From: Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Where to source parts for a project R22?
> > Message-ID:
> >         <
> > CABbc6O6nAZBB-_EkdzG7xaBvoxk19wt4bH8+13SE7fPnMJZxXQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > The General Boats Parts Department has a variety of Rhodes 22 items and
> > replacement parts available, including new and used sails.
> >
> > You can contact me directly at cindy at cindyspitzer.com or leave me a
> > voicemail at phone number below, and I'll see if we have what you need.
> >
> > Congratulations on what sounds like a nice find at the perfect time.
> >
> > Happy sailing!
> >
> > Cindy Spitzer
> > 443-980-7367
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 29, 2025, 5:33?PM John Farmer <johnfarmer87 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I found an R22 for sale that has been sitting in a saltwater slip in
> New
> > > York, unmaintained, for at least 8 years, although pictures show a
> clean
> > > interior and brand new sails in the bag. The seller says he will pay
> for
> > a
> > > new bottom paint job. I'm having it inspected before buying, and
> > anticipate
> > > a bunch of stuff will need to be replaced which leads me to my
> questions:
> > >
> > > Is it easy or difficult to source parts? Are there any resources I
> should
> > > be aware of, both for purchasing parts and also for help
> troubleshooting
> > > installation issues?
> > >
> > > Thanks very much,
> > > John
> > >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2025 14:04:39 -0400
> > From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Where to source parts for a project R22?
> > Message-ID: <001601dbb9fa$583718d0$08a54a70$@ebsmed.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > Hi John,
> >
> > Where in NY? Long Island? Do you need help?
> >
> > Mike
> > s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> > Nissequogue River, NY
> > I?d rather be sailing :~)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> > John Farmer
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2025 5:34 PM
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Where to source parts for a project R22?
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I found an R22 for sale that has been sitting in a saltwater slip in New
> > York, unmaintained, for at least 8 years, although pictures show a clean
> > interior and brand new sails in the bag. The seller says he will pay for
> a
> > new bottom paint job. I'm having it inspected before buying, and
> anticipate
> > a bunch of stuff will need to be replaced which leads me to my questions:
> >
> > Is it easy or difficult to source parts? Are there any resources I should
> > be aware of, both for purchasing parts and also for help troubleshooting
> > installation issues?
> >
> > Thanks very much,
> > John
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Tue, 6 May 2025 14:49:18 -0400
> > From: David Worth <dgworth3 at icloud.com>
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 4596, Issue 1
> > Message-ID: <6E2A61F2-1239-4B94-AAE4-DD299A3A8043 at icloud.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> >
> >
> > David Gaston Worth
> > 120 W Lemon St
> > Lititz, PA 17543
> > 717-715-7879
> > dgworth3 at icloud.com
> >
> > > On Feb 19, 2025, at 11:30?PM, rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org
> wrote:
> > >
> > > ?Send Rhodes22-list mailing list submissions to
> > >    rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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> > >
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> > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
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> > > than "Re: Contents of Rhodes22-list digest..."
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> > >
> > > Today's Topics:
> > >
> > >   1. Re: Rhodes Sails (Art Czerwonky)
> > >   2. Re: Rhodes Sails (Art Czerwonky)
> > >   3. Re: Bottom paint (Michael McKay)
> > >   4. Re: Rhodes Sails (BARRY RUEHLEN)
> > >   5. Re: Bottom paint (Michael D. Weisner)
> > >   6. Re: Bottom paint (Michael D. Weisner)
> > >   7. Re: Rhodes Sails (Matt Wilson)
> > >   8. Re: Rhodes Sails (Cindy Spitzer)
> > >   9. Re: Rhodes Sails (Chris Geankoplis)
> > >  10. Re: Rhodes Sails (Donald Simons)
> > >  11. Re: Rhodes Sails (Cindy Spitzer)
> > >  12. Re: Rhodes Sails (Chris Geankoplis)
> > >  13. Re: Rhodes Sails (Cindy Spitzer)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 1
> > > Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 02:31:06 +0000 (UTC)
> > > From: Art Czerwonky <a_czerwonky at yahoo.com>
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> > > Message-ID: <1233443046.674089.1739673066534 at mail.yahoo.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > >
> > > Fellow Skippers,?
> > > I have had similar frustration trying to get a replacement rudder for
> > Mary Jane. Still a mystery. Best of luck in your quest. I made a number
> of
> > boom rooms for our fleet. Never a problem.?
> > > Best to you,Art Czerwonky?
> > >
> > > Yahoo Mail - Email Simplified
> > >
> > >  On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 9:14 PM, BARRY RUEHLEN<ruehbl at msn.com> wrote:
> >  Matt,
> > > Yes I did eventually get a centerboard. I just can't tell you the
> > strangeness of the encounter. Delays, excuses, promises, lies. After a
> > couple months I told him to refund my money and I'd be happy to go to him
> > to get it, or send the board and give me a tracking number the following
> > day. I really don't think he's right in the head.
> > > Best,
> > > Barry Ruehlen
> > > SV Perseverance
> > > '86 Rhodes 22
> > > St James City, Fl.
> > >
> > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> > > Get Outlook for Android<
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__aka.ms_AAb9ysg&d=DwICAg&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=tJhBntQgPgZWibebnrC08A&m=aOrtgtfT7MbQzlMCq3Z4ZknRl7JN2G-j5Pg7_MlGMHckLuWug2IOvvHv9CCTLNxh&s=6pm3J3i_X_Ku69RXk22OSR7CTRO51x-syYW3qXsL1go&e=
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> > Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 3:23:31 PM
> > > To: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> > >
> > > Hey Matt it?s Ric.
> > > We have spoken about this before.? I bought a IMf mast from ol? Mike in
> > ?2021 or 22.? That too, was used up, requires a complete rebuild, and
> > remains my next project.
> > > Regarding ?another note?,? I happen to have a Genoa that I might be
> > willing to part with.? It is stashed away currently but I will dig it out
> > asap and have a look at it. The Genoa on Dadventure is most likely 1984
> > original. It still looks and works fine. Once I find the other? and check
> > it out, I?ll part with one of them for the price of? whatever you feel
> you
> > can afford. I?m very involved in an addition Reno of my house so I might
> > get distracted from your dilemma.
> > > Here is my email.
> > > ric at stottarchitecture.com.
> > > If I don?t surface again for awhile, give me a shout.
> > > Ric
> > > Dadventure
> > > HBNY
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >> On Feb 15, 2025, at 2:37?PM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ?Thanks for sharing Barry,
> > >>
> > >> You did eventually get a centerboard from him?
> > >>
> > >> I have had similar experiences for two years now.? Many promises
> unkept,
> > >> excuses related personal challenges about which I have been very
> patient
> > >> and understanding, but still no sails have arrived.? Very disappointed
> > in
> > >> how this turned out.
> > >>
> > >> Any other perspectives would be super helpful.
> > >>
> > >> Matt
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 1:21?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> I had a very bizarre experience with Mike Orla as well. Our Rhodes
> > floated
> > >>> off the trailer in hurricane Ian and snapped the centerboard in it's
> > short
> > >>> journey across our lot. Mike Orla said he had one and we agreed on a
> > price,
> > >>> shipped. The saga went on for a couple months with multiple layers of
> > >>> weirdness. Such as "Yes I have sent it. Must be lost. Will send you a
> > >>> better one I have. So when the other one gets there you will have
> 2.".
> > This
> > >>> is just a piece of the story. We did finally get a centerboard that
> is
> > in
> > >>> reasonable shape. It had been repaired, and I made more repairs.
> > >>> Be very cautious of Mike Orla.
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> > >>> Get Outlook for Android<
> >
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> > <
> >
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> > >>
> > >>> ________________________________
> > >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf
> of
> > >>> Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> > >>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 10:22:47 AM
> > >>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> > >>>
> > >>> Hello everyone,
> > >>>
> > >>> I hope your off season is going well.? It won't be long now!? ;)
> > >>>
> > >>> This list is always incredibly helpful and collaborative. I am
> > grateful for
> > >>> the level of experience and encouragement this resource regularly
> > supplies.
> > >>>
> > >>> My current question is unfortunately of a different nature.
> > >>>
> > >>> Many of you probably remember a guy by the name of Mike Orla parting
> > out
> > >>> his father in law's Rhodes on this list.? I reached out to his offer
> > and we
> > >>> agreed on a price for his 2018 set of North Sails.? Once he shipped
> > them
> > >>> however, it became clear that he sent me a fairly used up set of Lees
> > Sails
> > >>> that almost immediately started coming apart at the seams .? The
> > >>> ensuing saga (I'll spare you the gory details) has led me to believe
> > that
> > >>> perhaps he was swindling me from the very beginning.? Which leads me
> > to my
> > >>> question.? As we consider our options to rectify this situation, it
> > would
> > >>> be helpful to know if one of you might have purchased and received
> > those
> > >>> North Sails from him.? I of course would hold him fully responsible
> for
> > >>> this if this was truly the case.? I suppose it's a risk I took
> dealing
> > with
> > >>> a private party.? I have found every other sailor to be 100% helpful
> > and
> > >>> honest.
> > >>>
> > >>> If you did buy and receive the North Sails and are willing to let me
> > know,
> > >>> that would be very helpful in knowing how best to rectify this
> > situation.
> > >>> Please feel free to contact me privately at mwhornblower at gmail.com
> or
> > >>> 612-770-4531
> > >>>
> > >>> On a related note, if any of you have a genoa in good shape that they
> > would
> > >>> be willing to part with, I would be interested.? I don't have the
> > budget at
> > >>> the moment (two kids in college) to purchase new.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks for bearing with this less than light hearted email.
> > >>>
> > >>> Sincerely,
> > >>> Matt Wilson
> > >>> Hornblower II
> > >>> White Bear Lake, MN
> > >>>
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 2
> > > Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 02:36:26 +0000 (UTC)
> > > From: Art Czerwonky <a_czerwonky at yahoo.com>
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> > > Message-ID: <878631438.681396.1739673386865 at mail.yahoo.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > >
> > > Barry,?
> > > You have a perfect sailing venue,? which you have discovered. Removed
> > from most of the fleet as I am in Atlanta.? What year boat?
> > > Art?
> > >
> > > Yahoo Mail - Email Simplified
> > >
> > >  On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 9:31 PM, Art Czerwonky<a_czerwonky at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:   Fellow Skippers,?
> > > I have had similar frustration trying to get a replacement rudder for
> > Mary Jane. Still a mystery. Best of luck in your quest. I made a number
> of
> > boom rooms for our fleet. Never a problem.?
> > > Best to you,Art Czerwonky?
> > >
> > > Yahoo Mail - Email Simplified
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 3
> > > Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2025 22:19:41 -0500
> > > From: Michael McKay <mm.bizlist1 at gmail.com>
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bottom paint
> > > Message-ID: <AEA3864E-2383-4DC6-B8C5-9A6B8EB60A3B at gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > >
> > > If you do this, you should consider replacing the rubber gasket for the
> > cap while you?re at it.   This forum has threads about that process.  I
> > have some leftover material if anyone needs it?I had to buy a wide piece
> > and cut it down to size.
> > >
> > > Michael McKay
> > > (630) 209-2054 (m)
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >> On Feb 12, 2025, at 5:51?PM, Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ?PBR,
> > >>
> > >> Removing the centerboard from inside by removing the trunk cap is the
> > only
> > >> way to paint the entire centerboard and trunk slot.
> > >> But that is no easy task, as there are a lot of SS ?-20 bolts with
> > washers
> > >> and nuts holding the cover down.
> > >> I pulled mine put that way to address a crack in the trunk cover and
> to
> > >> replace the c/b pennant line as well as to reconfigure and reinforce
> the
> > >> block mountings on the c/b. That allowed me to paint the entire c/b
> and
> > >> inside the trunk slot. I painted the entire c/b, both sides at once,
> by
> > >> hanging it from a rafter in my garage. Other times, I have just
> blocked
> > the
> > >> boat and painted as much of the c/b and trunk as I could from below.
> > >>
> > >> The exception to this is if your boat is older; maybe 1975 or earlier,
> > the
> > >> c/b comes out from the bottom and there is no trunk cap in the cabin
> to
> > >> remove.
> > >>
> > >> Todd T.
> > >>
> > >>>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2025, 12:31 PM PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Can you remove the CB up through the cap while boat is sitting on the
> > >>> trailer to allow painting the board and inside the trunk?
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 11:34?AM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com
> >
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I must have doe something wrong. I did have to hide a good bit of
> the
> > >>>> different colored indicator coat underneath and a gallon did 2 coats
> > and
> > >>>> two on the rudder blade, but not the centerboard.
> > >>>> I painted the centerboard and trunk with 2 coats and plan to do.the
> > hull
> > >>>> when the weather gets warm, and have barely used any out of the
> gallon
> > >>>> bucket.
> > >>>> You should plan on a gallon.
> > >>>> I hate to admit it but I just buy the least expensive ablative
> paint;
> > >>>> Pettit Hydrocoat.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2025, 10:45 PM peter beckerman via Rhodes22-list <
> > >>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hi Roger,
> > >>>>>  I am planning on rolling.  I have a friend that can lend me some
> > >>> boat
> > >>>>> stands, so I'm planning on using a 10 ton capacity bottle jack to
> > walk
> > >>> it
> > >>>>> up off the trailer a few inches at a time fore and aft, until I
> have
> > >>> her
> > >>>>> about a foot off the bunks.  I'm hoping that'll give me enough room
> > to
> > >>>>> sand, and roll.  As always, don't be shy with any advice or
> insights
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Peter
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 4
> > > Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 11:53:03 +0000
> > > From: BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com>
> > > To: Art Czerwonky <a_czerwonky at yahoo.com>, The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > >    <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> > > Message-ID:
> > >    <
> >
> BL0PR02MB65315A7DB32E29F7EA412A7CC1FB2 at BL0PR02MB6531.namprd02.prod.outlook.com
> > >
> > >
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> > >
> > > Art,
> > > Our Rhodes is an 86 model. A neighbor and I bought it about 3 years ago
> > knowing it was somewhat of a project, needing extensive tlc. It turned
> into
> > a complete interior rebuild with dry rot and termites into the stringers.
> > The cockpit deck required new core and nonskid gel repair. We just about
> > had her ready to sail when Ian floated her off the trailer breaking the
> > centerboard and dinging the hull in several spots. That is when we
> > encountered Mike Orla. We decided that after glass repair on the hull, we
> > would not be able to match the red gelcoat. The solution was a new paint
> > job. All of that and more took quite a while. Once we were able to get on
> > the water, we found the motor was not dependable and repowered her. We
> are
> > just now able to sail comfortably even though we still have some minor
> > gelcoat repairs to finish and rewire the breaker panel. The galley
> rebuild
> > and sole repairs are complete. That's a very brief rundown of our
> journey.
> > > She was previously named Crimson Cloud. New name is Perserverance.
> > > Best,
> > > BARRY
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> > Art Czerwonky via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 9:36 PM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> > >
> > > Barry,
> > > You have a perfect sailing venue,  which you have discovered. Removed
> > from most of the fleet as I am in Atlanta.  What year boat?
> > > Art
> > >
> > > Yahoo Mail - Email Simplified
> > >
> > >  On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 9:31 PM, Art Czerwonky<a_czerwonky at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:   Fellow Skippers,
> > > I have had similar frustration trying to get a replacement rudder for
> > Mary Jane. Still a mystery. Best of luck in your quest. I made a number
> of
> > boom rooms for our fleet. Never a problem.
> > > Best to you,Art Czerwonky
> > >
> > > Yahoo Mail - Email Simplified
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 5
> > > Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 19:33:57 -0500
> > > From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> > > To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bottom paint
> > > Message-ID: <003f01db819c$ccc2a070$6647e150$@ebsmed.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="UTF-8"
> > >
> > > I noticed that Pettit has their annual rebate on bottom paint. I use
> > Hydrocoat which has a $50 rebate.
> > >
> > > The rebate link is:
> > >
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__pettitpaint.com_rebates&d=DwICAg&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=tJhBntQgPgZWibebnrC08A&m=aOrtgtfT7MbQzlMCq3Z4ZknRl7JN2G-j5Pg7_MlGMHckLuWug2IOvvHv9CCTLNxh&s=M1ql3Q9PChf19Esa-lOfqQgrCFufg7Sv36Z_DUAygOc&e=
> > >
> > > The rebate form is available at:
> > >
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__pettitpaint.com_media_5921_pp-2D25066-2Dprotect-2Dand-2Dpropser-2Drebate-2Dflyer.pdf&d=DwICAg&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=tJhBntQgPgZWibebnrC08A&m=aOrtgtfT7MbQzlMCq3Z4ZknRl7JN2G-j5Pg7_MlGMHckLuWug2IOvvHv9CCTLNxh&s=2dcXNex9ruDDIuuCS32Dk-3TDZbJBWarUhKmGjx21E4&e=
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> > > Nissequogue River, NY
> > > I?d rather be sailing :~)
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> > Michael McKay
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 10:20 PM
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bottom paint
> > >
> > > If you do this, you should consider replacing the rubber gasket for the
> > cap while you?re at it.   This forum has threads about that process.  I
> > have some leftover material if anyone needs it?I had to buy a wide piece
> > and cut it down to size.
> > >
> > > Michael McKay
> > > (630) 209-2054 (m)
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >> On Feb 12, 2025, at 5:51?PM, Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ?PBR,
> > >>
> > >> Removing the centerboard from inside by removing the trunk cap is the
> > >> only way to paint the entire centerboard and trunk slot.
> > >> But that is no easy task, as there are a lot of SS ?-20 bolts with
> > >> washers and nuts holding the cover down.
> > >> I pulled mine put that way to address a crack in the trunk cover and
> > >> to replace the c/b pennant line as well as to reconfigure and
> > >> reinforce the block mountings on the c/b. That allowed me to paint the
> > >> entire c/b and inside the trunk slot. I painted the entire c/b, both
> > >> sides at once, by hanging it from a rafter in my garage. Other times,
> > >> I have just blocked the boat and painted as much of the c/b and trunk
> > as I could from below.
> > >>
> > >> The exception to this is if your boat is older; maybe 1975 or earlier,
> > >> the c/b comes out from the bottom and there is no trunk cap in the
> > >> cabin to remove.
> > >>
> > >> Todd T.
> > >>
> > >>>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2025, 12:31 PM PBR <pbryanriley at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Can you remove the CB up through the cap while boat is sitting on the
> > >>> trailer to allow painting the board and inside the trunk?
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 11:34?AM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com
> >
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I must have doe something wrong. I did have to hide a good bit of
> > >>>> the different colored indicator coat underneath and a gallon did 2
> > >>>> coats and two on the rudder blade, but not the centerboard.
> > >>>> I painted the centerboard and trunk with 2 coats and plan to do.the
> > >>>> hull when the weather gets warm, and have barely used any out of the
> > >>>> gallon bucket.
> > >>>> You should plan on a gallon.
> > >>>> I hate to admit it but I just buy the least expensive ablative
> > >>>> paint; Pettit Hydrocoat.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2025, 10:45 PM peter beckerman via Rhodes22-list <
> > >>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hi Roger,
> > >>>>>  I am planning on rolling.  I have a friend that can lend me some
> > >>> boat
> > >>>>> stands, so I'm planning on using a 10 ton capacity bottle jack to
> > >>>>> walk
> > >>> it
> > >>>>> up off the trailer a few inches at a time fore and aft, until I
> > >>>>> have
> > >>> her
> > >>>>> about a foot off the bunks.  I'm hoping that'll give me enough room
> > >>>>> to sand, and roll.  As always, don't be shy with any advice or
> > >>>>> insights
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Peter
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 6
> > > Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2025 19:45:15 -0500
> > > From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> > > To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bottom paint
> > > Message-ID: <004201db819e$60a7d7f0$21f787d0$@ebsmed.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain;    charset="UTF-8"
> > >
> > > Please be very careful when using bottle jacks. I have seen several
> > Rhodes 22 hulls with very round puncture marks in the lower portions. If
> > you insist on jacking the hull up, please distribute the weight over a
> > large area using soft wood blocks. Instead, I use an A-frame made of a
> pair
> > of through bolted 4x4x12s and a come-along to the from lifting hook. Make
> > sure that the block behind the front hook is in good condition and that
> the
> > nuts to the U-bolt are tight.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> > > Nissequogue River, NY
> > > I?d rather be sailing :~)
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
> > ROGER PIHLAJA
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2025 2:06 AM
> > > To: peter beckerman <recorderguy2001 at yahoo.com>; The Rhodes Email
> List <
> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Cc: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Bottom paint
> > >
> > > Hi Peter,
> > >
> > > It?s important that you prevent the boat stands from shifting.  Unless
> > you are painting on concrete, I always put plywood under the legs to
> > prevent the stands from sinking into the soil or blacktop.  The boat
> stands
> > should also come equipped with chains.  You should use these to secure
> the
> > top of the boat stands together.  As you are lifting and lowering the
> boat,
> > you may find several pieces of 4x6 wood are useful to use as cribbing to
> > support a corner while you reposition the jack.
> > >
> > > Bottom paint is toxic.  Be sure to wear appropriate PPE when you are
> > sanding and painting.
> > >
> > > Roger Pihlaja
> > > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> > > 1978. Sanford, MI
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >> On Feb 11, 2025, at 10:45?PM, peter beckerman via Rhodes22-list <
> > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ?Hi Roger,
> > >>  I am planning on rolling.  I have a friend that can lend me some boat
> > stands, so I'm planning on using a 10 ton capacity bottle jack to walk it
> > up off the trailer a few inches at a time fore and aft, until I have her
> > about a foot off the bunks.  I'm hoping that'll give me enough room to
> > sand, and roll.  As always, don't be shy with any advice or insights
> > >>
> > >> Peter
> > >>
> > >> [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 7
> > > Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 11:38:20 -0600
> > > From: Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> > > Message-ID:
> > >    <CANbEFCt2W6caRRn_avVUGBPbqAk+DOFyy2dm=pChsgWgFpWArw at mail.gmail.com
> >
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > >
> > > Thanks everyone!
> > >
> > > Seems like there is a real pattern of extreme challenge that Mr. Orla
> is
> > > facing. Unfortunately, it?s affected several of us.
> > >
> > > Cindy, thanks for the heads up.  Are those sails listed on the website
> > > somewhere?
> > >
> > > Matt
> > >
> > > On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 2:31?PM Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> The general boats parts department has various new and used Rhodes 22
> > >> sails.
> > >>
> > >> Cindy Spitzer
> > >> 443-980-7367
> > >>
> > >>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025, 3:23?PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hey Matt it?s Ric.
> > >>> We have spoken about this before.  I bought a IMf mast from ol? Mike
> in
> > >>> ?2021 or 22.  That too, was used up, requires a complete rebuild, and
> > >>> remains my next project.
> > >>> Regarding ?another note?,  I happen to have a Genoa that I might be
> > >>> willing to part with.  It is stashed away currently but I will dig it
> > out
> > >>> asap and have a look at it. The Genoa on Dadventure is most likely
> 1984
> > >>> original. It still looks and works fine. Once I find the other   and
> > >> check
> > >>> it out, I?ll part with one of them for the price of  whatever you
> feel
> > >> you
> > >>> can afford. I?m very involved in an addition Reno of my house so I
> > might
> > >>> get distracted from your dilemma.
> > >>> Here is my email.
> > >>> ric at stottarchitecture.com.
> > >>> If I don?t surface again for awhile, give me a shout.
> > >>> Ric
> > >>> Dadventure
> > >>> HBNY
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Feb 15, 2025, at 2:37?PM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ?Thanks for sharing Barry,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> You did eventually get a centerboard from him?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I have had similar experiences for two years now.  Many promises
> > >> unkept,
> > >>>> excuses related personal challenges about which I have been very
> > >> patient
> > >>>> and understanding, but still no sails have arrived.  Very
> disappointed
> > >> in
> > >>>> how this turned out.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Any other perspectives would be super helpful.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Matt
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 1:21?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I had a very bizarre experience with Mike Orla as well. Our Rhodes
> > >>> floated
> > >>>>> off the trailer in hurricane Ian and snapped the centerboard in
> it's
> > >>> short
> > >>>>> journey across our lot. Mike Orla said he had one and we agreed on
> a
> > >>> price,
> > >>>>> shipped. The saga went on for a couple months with multiple layers
> of
> > >>>>> weirdness. Such as "Yes I have sent it. Must be lost. Will send
> you a
> > >>>>> better one I have. So when the other one gets there you will have
> > 2.".
> > >>> This
> > >>>>> is just a piece of the story. We did finally get a centerboard that
> > is
> > >>> in
> > >>>>> reasonable shape. It had been repaired, and I made more repairs.
> > >>>>> Be very cautious of Mike Orla.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> > >>>>> Get Outlook for Android<
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__aka.ms_AAb9ysg&d=DwICAg&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=tJhBntQgPgZWibebnrC08A&m=aOrtgtfT7MbQzlMCq3Z4ZknRl7JN2G-j5Pg7_MlGMHckLuWug2IOvvHv9CCTLNxh&s=6pm3J3i_X_Ku69RXk22OSR7CTRO51x-syYW3qXsL1go&e=
> > >
> > >>>>> ________________________________
> > >>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf
> > of
> > >>>>> Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> > >>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 10:22:47 AM
> > >>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Hello everyone,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I hope your off season is going well.  It won't be long now!  ;)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> This list is always incredibly helpful and collaborative. I am
> > >> grateful
> > >>> for
> > >>>>> the level of experience and encouragement this resource regularly
> > >>> supplies.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> My current question is unfortunately of a different nature.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Many of you probably remember a guy by the name of Mike Orla
> parting
> > >> out
> > >>>>> his father in law's Rhodes on this list.  I reached out to his
> offer
> > >>> and we
> > >>>>> agreed on a price for his 2018 set of North Sails.  Once he shipped
> > >> them
> > >>>>> however, it became clear that he sent me a fairly used up set of
> Lees
> > >>> Sails
> > >>>>> that almost immediately started coming apart at the seams .  The
> > >>>>> ensuing saga (I'll spare you the gory details) has led me to
> believe
> > >>> that
> > >>>>> perhaps he was swindling me from the very beginning.  Which leads
> me
> > >> to
> > >>> my
> > >>>>> question.  As we consider our options to rectify this situation, it
> > >>> would
> > >>>>> be helpful to know if one of you might have purchased and received
> > >> those
> > >>>>> North Sails from him.  I of course would hold him fully responsible
> > >> for
> > >>>>> this if this was truly the case.  I suppose it's a risk I took
> > dealing
> > >>> with
> > >>>>> a private party.  I have found every other sailor to be 100%
> helpful
> > >> and
> > >>>>> honest.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> If you did buy and receive the North Sails and are willing to let
> me
> > >>> know,
> > >>>>> that would be very helpful in knowing how best to rectify this
> > >>> situation.
> > >>>>> Please feel free to contact me privately at mwhornblower at gmail.com
> > or
> > >>>>> 612-770-4531
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On a related note, if any of you have a genoa in good shape that
> they
> > >>> would
> > >>>>> be willing to part with, I would be interested.  I don't have the
> > >>> budget at
> > >>>>> the moment (two kids in college) to purchase new.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks for bearing with this less than light hearted email.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Sincerely,
> > >>>>> Matt Wilson
> > >>>>> Hornblower II
> > >>>>> White Bear Lake, MN
> > >>>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 8
> > > Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 15:00:03 -0500
> > > From: Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> > > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> > > Message-ID:
> > >    <CABbc6O6+TnvHcTyx5w2zkkhkemN2AEdvATSCUiK1oGyeZzMnHQ at mail.gmail.com
> >
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > >
> > > Thanks for asking about Rhodes sails availability.
> > >
> > > Currently the Rhodes 22 Parts Department is in the middle of physically
> > > moving and systematically inventorying many useful new and used Rhodes
> > > parts and related equipment, including sails, among many other items,
> > large
> > > and small.
> > >
> > > Once that enormous process is complete, we hope to be able to provide
> > > better information about what we have in stock, costs, delivery
> options,
> > > etc.
> > >
> > > Ideally, that would also include a searchable list on the website.
> > >
> > > In the meantime, while we are working hard to locate, consolidate, and
> > > organize as much as we can, please direct your specific requests to
> > Stan's
> > > old email address stan at generalboats.com and we may be able to help.
> > >
> > > Please be patient during this transition. We are all volunteers with
> > > otherwise busy lives.
> > >
> > > Spring is coming. Happy sailing!
> > >
> > > Cindy
> > >
> > > Cindy Spitzer
> > > 443-980-7367
> > >
> > >> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025, 1:56?PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Thanks everyone!
> > >>
> > >> Seems like there is a real pattern of extreme challenge that Mr. Orla
> is
> > >> facing. Unfortunately, it?s affected several of us.
> > >>
> > >> Cindy, thanks for the heads up.  Are those sails listed on the website
> > >> somewhere?
> > >>
> > >> Matt
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 2:31?PM Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> The general boats parts department has various new and used Rhodes 22
> > >>> sails.
> > >>>
> > >>> Cindy Spitzer
> > >>> 443-980-7367
> > >>>
> > >>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025, 3:23?PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hey Matt it?s Ric.
> > >>>> We have spoken about this before.  I bought a IMf mast from ol? Mike
> > in
> > >>>> ?2021 or 22.  That too, was used up, requires a complete rebuild,
> and
> > >>>> remains my next project.
> > >>>> Regarding ?another note?,  I happen to have a Genoa that I might be
> > >>>> willing to part with.  It is stashed away currently but I will dig
> it
> > >> out
> > >>>> asap and have a look at it. The Genoa on Dadventure is most likely
> > 1984
> > >>>> original. It still looks and works fine. Once I find the other   and
> > >>> check
> > >>>> it out, I?ll part with one of them for the price of  whatever you
> feel
> > >>> you
> > >>>> can afford. I?m very involved in an addition Reno of my house so I
> > >> might
> > >>>> get distracted from your dilemma.
> > >>>> Here is my email.
> > >>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com.
> > >>>> If I don?t surface again for awhile, give me a shout.
> > >>>> Ric
> > >>>> Dadventure
> > >>>> HBNY
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On Feb 15, 2025, at 2:37?PM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ?Thanks for sharing Barry,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> You did eventually get a centerboard from him?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I have had similar experiences for two years now.  Many promises
> > >>> unkept,
> > >>>>> excuses related personal challenges about which I have been very
> > >>> patient
> > >>>>> and understanding, but still no sails have arrived.  Very
> > >> disappointed
> > >>> in
> > >>>>> how this turned out.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Any other perspectives would be super helpful.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Matt
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 1:21?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I had a very bizarre experience with Mike Orla as well. Our Rhodes
> > >>>> floated
> > >>>>>> off the trailer in hurricane Ian and snapped the centerboard in
> it's
> > >>>> short
> > >>>>>> journey across our lot. Mike Orla said he had one and we agreed
> on a
> > >>>> price,
> > >>>>>> shipped. The saga went on for a couple months with multiple layers
> > >> of
> > >>>>>> weirdness. Such as "Yes I have sent it. Must be lost. Will send
> you
> > >> a
> > >>>>>> better one I have. So when the other one gets there you will have
> > >> 2.".
> > >>>> This
> > >>>>>> is just a piece of the story. We did finally get a centerboard
> that
> > >> is
> > >>>> in
> > >>>>>> reasonable shape. It had been repaired, and I made more repairs.
> > >>>>>> Be very cautious of Mike Orla.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> > >>>>>> Get Outlook for Android<
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__aka.ms_AAb9ysg&d=DwICAg&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=tJhBntQgPgZWibebnrC08A&m=aOrtgtfT7MbQzlMCq3Z4ZknRl7JN2G-j5Pg7_MlGMHckLuWug2IOvvHv9CCTLNxh&s=6pm3J3i_X_Ku69RXk22OSR7CTRO51x-syYW3qXsL1go&e=
> > >
> > >>>>>> ________________________________
> > >>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on
> behalf
> > >> of
> > >>>>>> Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> > >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 10:22:47 AM
> > >>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hello everyone,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I hope your off season is going well.  It won't be long now!  ;)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> This list is always incredibly helpful and collaborative. I am
> > >>> grateful
> > >>>> for
> > >>>>>> the level of experience and encouragement this resource regularly
> > >>>> supplies.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> My current question is unfortunately of a different nature.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Many of you probably remember a guy by the name of Mike Orla
> parting
> > >>> out
> > >>>>>> his father in law's Rhodes on this list.  I reached out to his
> offer
> > >>>> and we
> > >>>>>> agreed on a price for his 2018 set of North Sails.  Once he
> shipped
> > >>> them
> > >>>>>> however, it became clear that he sent me a fairly used up set of
> > >> Lees
> > >>>> Sails
> > >>>>>> that almost immediately started coming apart at the seams .  The
> > >>>>>> ensuing saga (I'll spare you the gory details) has led me to
> believe
> > >>>> that
> > >>>>>> perhaps he was swindling me from the very beginning.  Which leads
> me
> > >>> to
> > >>>> my
> > >>>>>> question.  As we consider our options to rectify this situation,
> it
> > >>>> would
> > >>>>>> be helpful to know if one of you might have purchased and received
> > >>> those
> > >>>>>> North Sails from him.  I of course would hold him fully
> responsible
> > >>> for
> > >>>>>> this if this was truly the case.  I suppose it's a risk I took
> > >> dealing
> > >>>> with
> > >>>>>> a private party.  I have found every other sailor to be 100%
> helpful
> > >>> and
> > >>>>>> honest.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> If you did buy and receive the North Sails and are willing to let
> me
> > >>>> know,
> > >>>>>> that would be very helpful in knowing how best to rectify this
> > >>>> situation.
> > >>>>>> Please feel free to contact me privately at
> mwhornblower at gmail.com
> > >> or
> > >>>>>> 612-770-4531
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On a related note, if any of you have a genoa in good shape that
> > >> they
> > >>>> would
> > >>>>>> be willing to part with, I would be interested.  I don't have the
> > >>>> budget at
> > >>>>>> the moment (two kids in college) to purchase new.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thanks for bearing with this less than light hearted email.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Sincerely,
> > >>>>>> Matt Wilson
> > >>>>>> Hornblower II
> > >>>>>> White Bear Lake, MN
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 9
> > > Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 08:23:42 -0600
> > > From: Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com>
> > > To: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> > > Message-ID: <2AD9CD02-0E5D-4F39-B2D7-27F94C538265 at gmail.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
> > >
> > > Thanks Cindy!  Hope you and your family are doing well. I?ll check if I
> > need anything once the weather gets out of negative numbers
> > > Chris Geankopli. S/V Xenos
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >> On Feb 18, 2025, at 2:00?PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ?Thanks for asking about Rhodes sails availability.
> > >>
> > >> Currently the Rhodes 22 Parts Department is in the middle of
> physically
> > >> moving and systematically inventorying many useful new and used Rhodes
> > >> parts and related equipment, including sails, among many other items,
> > large
> > >> and small.
> > >>
> > >> Once that enormous process is complete, we hope to be able to provide
> > >> better information about what we have in stock, costs, delivery
> options,
> > >> etc.
> > >>
> > >> Ideally, that would also include a searchable list on the website.
> > >>
> > >> In the meantime, while we are working hard to locate, consolidate, and
> > >> organize as much as we can, please direct your specific requests to
> > Stan's
> > >> old email address stan at generalboats.com and we may be able to help.
> > >>
> > >> Please be patient during this transition. We are all volunteers with
> > >> otherwise busy lives.
> > >>
> > >> Spring is coming. Happy sailing!
> > >>
> > >> Cindy
> > >>
> > >> Cindy Spitzer
> > >> 443-980-7367
> > >>
> > >>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025, 1:56?PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks everyone!
> > >>>
> > >>> Seems like there is a real pattern of extreme challenge that Mr. Orla
> > is
> > >>> facing. Unfortunately, it?s affected several of us.
> > >>>
> > >>> Cindy, thanks for the heads up.  Are those sails listed on the
> website
> > >>> somewhere?
> > >>>
> > >>> Matt
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 2:31?PM Cindy Spitzer <
> cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> The general boats parts department has various new and used Rhodes
> 22
> > >>>> sails.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Cindy Spitzer
> > >>>> 443-980-7367
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025, 3:23?PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hey Matt it?s Ric.
> > >>>>> We have spoken about this before.  I bought a IMf mast from ol?
> Mike
> > in
> > >>>>> ?2021 or 22.  That too, was used up, requires a complete rebuild,
> and
> > >>>>> remains my next project.
> > >>>>> Regarding ?another note?,  I happen to have a Genoa that I might be
> > >>>>> willing to part with.  It is stashed away currently but I will dig
> it
> > >>> out
> > >>>>> asap and have a look at it. The Genoa on Dadventure is most likely
> > 1984
> > >>>>> original. It still looks and works fine. Once I find the other
>  and
> > >>>> check
> > >>>>> it out, I?ll part with one of them for the price of  whatever you
> > feel
> > >>>> you
> > >>>>> can afford. I?m very involved in an addition Reno of my house so I
> > >>> might
> > >>>>> get distracted from your dilemma.
> > >>>>> Here is my email.
> > >>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com.
> > >>>>> If I don?t surface again for awhile, give me a shout.
> > >>>>> Ric
> > >>>>> Dadventure
> > >>>>> HBNY
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Feb 15, 2025, at 2:37?PM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> ?Thanks for sharing Barry,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> You did eventually get a centerboard from him?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I have had similar experiences for two years now.  Many promises
> > >>>> unkept,
> > >>>>>> excuses related personal challenges about which I have been very
> > >>>> patient
> > >>>>>> and understanding, but still no sails have arrived.  Very
> > >>> disappointed
> > >>>> in
> > >>>>>> how this turned out.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Any other perspectives would be super helpful.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Matt
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 1:21?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I had a very bizarre experience with Mike Orla as well. Our
> Rhodes
> > >>>>> floated
> > >>>>>>> off the trailer in hurricane Ian and snapped the centerboard in
> > it's
> > >>>>> short
> > >>>>>>> journey across our lot. Mike Orla said he had one and we agreed
> on
> > a
> > >>>>> price,
> > >>>>>>> shipped. The saga went on for a couple months with multiple
> layers
> > >>> of
> > >>>>>>> weirdness. Such as "Yes I have sent it. Must be lost. Will send
> you
> > >>> a
> > >>>>>>> better one I have. So when the other one gets there you will have
> > >>> 2.".
> > >>>>> This
> > >>>>>>> is just a piece of the story. We did finally get a centerboard
> that
> > >>> is
> > >>>>> in
> > >>>>>>> reasonable shape. It had been repaired, and I made more repairs.
> > >>>>>>> Be very cautious of Mike Orla.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> > >>>>>>> Get Outlook for Android<
> >
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__aka.ms_AAb9ysg&d=DwICAg&c=slrrB7dE8n7gBJbeO0g-IQ&r=tJhBntQgPgZWibebnrC08A&m=aOrtgtfT7MbQzlMCq3Z4ZknRl7JN2G-j5Pg7_MlGMHckLuWug2IOvvHv9CCTLNxh&s=6pm3J3i_X_Ku69RXk22OSR7CTRO51x-syYW3qXsL1go&e=
> > >
> > >>>>>>> ________________________________
> > >>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on
> behalf
> > >>> of
> > >>>>>>> Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 10:22:47 AM
> > >>>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >>>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Hello everyone,
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I hope your off season is going well.  It won't be long now!  ;)
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> This list is always incredibly helpful and collaborative. I am
> > >>>> grateful
> > >>>>> for
> > >>>>>>> the level of experience and encouragement this resource regularly
> > >>>>> supplies.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> My current question is unfortunately of a different nature.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Many of you probably remember a guy by the name of Mike Orla
> > parting
> > >>>> out
> > >>>>>>> his father in law's Rhodes on this list.  I reached out to his
> > offer
> > >>>>> and we
> > >>>>>>> agreed on a price for his 2018 set of North Sails.  Once he
> shipped
> > >>>> them
> > >>>>>>> however, it became clear that he sent me a fairly used up set of
> > >>> Lees
> > >>>>> Sails
> > >>>>>>> that almost immediately started coming apart at the seams .  The
> > >>>>>>> ensuing saga (I'll spare you the gory details) has led me to
> > believe
> > >>>>> that
> > >>>>>>> perhaps he was swindling me from the very beginning.  Which leads
> > me
> > >>>> to
> > >>>>> my
> > >>>>>>> question.  As we consider our options to rectify this situation,
> it
> > >>>>> would
> > >>>>>>> be helpful to know if one of you might have purchased and
> received
> > >>>> those
> > >>>>>>> North Sails from him.  I of course would hold him fully
> responsible
> > >>>> for
> > >>>>>>> this if this was truly the case.  I suppose it's a risk I took
> > >>> dealing
> > >>>>> with
> > >>>>>>> a private party.  I have found every other sailor to be 100%
> > helpful
> > >>>> and
> > >>>>>>> honest.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> If you did buy and receive the North Sails and are willing to let
> > me
> > >>>>> know,
> > >>>>>>> that would be very helpful in knowing how best to rectify this
> > >>>>> situation.
> > >>>>>>> Please feel free to contact me privately at
> mwhornblower at gmail.com
> > >>> or
> > >>>>>>> 612-770-4531
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On a related note, if any of you have a genoa in good shape that
> > >>> they
> > >>>>> would
> > >>>>>>> be willing to part with, I would be interested.  I don't have the
> > >>>>> budget at
> > >>>>>>> the moment (two kids in college) to purchase new.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Thanks for bearing with this less than light hearted email.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Sincerely,
> > >>>>>>> Matt Wilson
> > >>>>>>> Hornblower II
> > >>>>>>> White Bear Lake, MN
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > Message: 10
> > > Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 01:56:14 +0000 (UTC)
> > > From: Donald Simons <borderfolle at yahoo.com>
> > > To: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> > > Message-ID: <1726577370.1252557.1740016574197 at mail.yahoo.com>
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> > >
> > > Hi Cindy.? It sounds as though you are undertaking a monumental job.?
> > Thank-you for doing this and for continuing Stan's legacy.
> > > Don Simons,?Old Forge, NY
> > >    On Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 09:23:59 AM EST, Chris
> Geankoplis <
> > chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Cindy!? Hope you and your family are doing well. I?ll check if I
> > need anything once the weather gets out of negative numbers
> > > Chris Geankopli. S/V Xenos
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > >> On Feb 18, 2025, at 2:00?PM, Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> ?Thanks for asking about Rhodes sails availability.
> > >>
> > >> Currently the Rhodes 22 Parts Department is in the middle of
> physically
> > >> moving and systematically inventorying many useful new and used Rhodes
> > >> parts and related equipment, including sails, among many other items,
> > large
> > >> and small.
> > >>
> > >> Once that enormous process is complete, we hope to be able to provide
> > >> better information about what we have in stock, costs, delivery
> options,
> > >> etc.
> > >>
> > >> Ideally, that would also include a searchable list on the website.
> > >>
> > >> In the meantime, while we are working hard to locate, consolidate, and
> > >> organize as much as we can, please direct your specific requests to
> > Stan's
> > >> old email address stan at generalboats.com and we may be able to help.
> > >>
> > >> Please be patient during this transition. We are all volunteers with
> > >> otherwise busy lives.
> > >>
> > >> Spring is coming. Happy sailing!
> > >>
> > >> Cindy
> > >>
> > >> Cindy Spitzer
> > >> 443-980-7367
> > >>
> > >>>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2025, 1:56?PM Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks everyone!
> > >>>
> > >>> Seems like there is a real pattern of extreme challenge that Mr. Orla
> > is
> > >>> facing. Unfortunately, it?s affected several of us.
> > >>>
> > >>> Cindy, thanks for the heads up.? Are those sails listed on the
> website
> > >>> somewhere?
> > >>>
> > >>> Matt
> > >>>
> > >>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 2:31?PM Cindy Spitzer <
> cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> The general boats parts department has various new and used Rhodes
> 22
> > >>>> sails.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Cindy Spitzer
> > >>>> 443-980-7367
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025, 3:23?PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hey Matt it?s Ric.
> > >>>>> We have spoken about this before.? I bought a IMf mast from ol?
> Mike
> > in
> > >>>>> ?2021 or 22.? That too, was used up, requires a complete rebuild,
> and
> > >>>>> remains my next project.
> > >>>>> Regarding ?another note?,? I happen to have a Genoa that I might be
> > >>>>> willing to part with.? It is stashed away currently but I will dig
> it
> > >>> out
> > >>>>> asap and have a look at it. The Genoa on Dadventure is most likely
> > 1984
> > >>>>> original. It still looks and works fine. Once I find the other? and
> > >>>> check
> > >>>>> it out, I?ll part with one of them for the price of? whatever you
> > feel
> > >>>> you
> > >>>>> can afford. I?m very involved in an addition Reno of my house so I
> > >>> might
> > >>>>> get distracted from your dilemma.
> > >>>>> Here is my email.
> > >>>>> ric at stottarchitecture.com.
> > >>>>> If I don?t surface again for awhile, give me a shout.
> > >>>>> Ric
> > >>>>> Dadventure
> > >>>>> HBNY
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Feb 15, 2025, at 2:37?PM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> ?Thanks for sharing Barry,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> You did eventually get a centerboard from him?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I have had similar experiences for two years now.? Many promises
> > >>>> unkept,
> > >>>>>> excuses related personal challenges about which I have been very
> > >>>> patient
> > >>>>>> and understanding, but still no sails have arrived.? Very
> > >>> disappointed
> > >>>> in
> > >>>>>> how this turned out.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Any other perspectives would be super helpful.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Matt
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 1:21?PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I had a very bizarre experience with Mike Orla as well. Our
> Rhodes
> > >>>>> floated
> > >>>>>>> off the trailer in hurricane Ian and snapped the centerboard in
> > it's
> > >>>>> shor
>


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