Thanks to all that offered your input on halyards and the Rhodes 22. Also input on the main outhaul car. For now, I guess we'll sail the headsail as most of you do, with no halyard. I investigated the alternate furling systems that do make use of a halyard. I'll leave that up to my boat partner if it's worth the expense. I am wondering, however, sense we are looking into a new headsail, If the sail we buy for our typical Rhodes furling system, would still work if we put up a new furling system like the one CDI makes for instance.
As for the new car, it is like the one Robert sent a picture of in one of his replies. ( the good one shown in place, not the broken one in the foreground). I'll let you know how it works soon.
 The full gut and rebuild of our R22 has been an adventure full of learning new crafts, problem solving, and pride in each step forward. I never met Stan, and I'm sure we've done things he would have done differently, but I hope he would be pleased to see she is back from the scruffy shape she was in. It has also built a strong, lifetime bond with my boat partner and our wives. We (I) still have much learning to do.
Thanks to all,
Barry Ruehlen
SV Perseverance (for now)
St James City Fl.

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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] how to rig halyard

It is possible to have a halyard on headsail if you have a headsail furler with slot.  I have  keep mast up for winter ( when I don’t have help) and remove headsail without dropping mast.

> On May 4, 2026, at 9:00 PM, Stephen Staum <snstaum at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am on my 3rd Rhodes 22 since 2003. Your partner is correct as most
> sailboats have halyards that allow you to lower any sail. The Rhodes 22 is
> the exception. No halyards for main or Genoa. The only way to drop the main
> is to lower the mast & remove to sail assembly out the bottom.
>
>
> Stay Well,
> Stephen Staum
> s/v Pinafore
> Needham, MA
>
>> On Mon, May 4, 2026 at 5:29 PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote:
>>
>> As some may recall, a friend and I took an '87 in over 4 years ago, At
>> that time we thought it was in need of substantial TLC. As we got into it,
>> things got worse. We then found termites. everything down to the stringers
>> had to come out. Even the stringers had to be redone. We got most of that
>> work done, and she got hit while on the trailer by hurricane Ian. The keel
>> dropped and snapped, and she sustained some body damage. That has been
>> repaired and we put on a beautiful application of Alexseal red paint. We
>> are now sailing and working on understanding the rigging better. I recently
>> put out a thread about out outhaul car and or rigging issue. We just got a
>> new car from Charles today and will give all that a go tomorrow. Will let
>> all know how that works.
>> This thread is to address the fact that our rigging did not come with a
>> halyard. My partner in the boat says that is absolutely wrong and has never
>> sailed a boat without. (Back story, my partner has sailed all his life and
>> raced professionally. I know jack, really) The question is do you all have
>> a halyard to drop the head sail, and does anyone have a picture or diagram?
>> I assume the main sail can't have one because it's inside the mast?? This
>> actually came to the surface as we were talking to Art C. about purchasing
>> a headsail from him. BTY Art, we are still interested if you would like to
>> get back to me. My friend said you normally can change headsails without
>> dropping the mast.
>> Best
>> Barry Ruehlen
>> SV perseverance, Rhodes 22
>> Saint James City, Fl
>>
>> [ Sent From rhodes22.net ]
>>
>>