Thanks everyone!

Seems like there is a real pattern of extreme challenge that Mr. Orla is facing. Unfortunately, it’s affected several of us.

Cindy, thanks for the heads up.  Are those sails listed on the website somewhere?

Matt

On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at 2:31 PM Cindy Spitzer <cindyspitzer at gmail.com>
wrote:

> The general boats parts department has various new and used Rhodes 22
> sails.
>
> Cindy Spitzer
> 443-980-7367
>
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025, 3:23 PM Ric Stott <ric at stottarchitecture.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey Matt it’s Ric.
> > We have spoken about this before.  I bought a IMf mast from ol’ Mike in
> > ‘2021 or 22.  That too, was used up, requires a complete rebuild, and
> > remains my next project.
> > Regarding ‘another note’,  I happen to have a Genoa that I might be
> > willing to part with.  It is stashed away currently but I will dig it out
> > asap and have a look at it. The Genoa on Dadventure is most likely 1984
> > original. It still looks and works fine. Once I find the other   and
> check
> > it out, I’ll part with one of them for the price of  whatever you feel
> you
> > can afford. I’m very involved in an addition Reno of my house so I might
> > get distracted from your dilemma.
> > Here is my email.
> > ric at stottarchitecture.com.
> > If I don’t surface again for awhile, give me a shout.
> > Ric
> > Dadventure
> > HBNY
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Feb 15, 2025, at 2:37 PM, Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for sharing Barry,
> > >
> > > You did eventually get a centerboard from him?
> > >
> > > I have had similar experiences for two years now.  Many promises
> unkept,
> > > excuses related personal challenges about which I have been very
> patient
> > > and understanding, but still no sails have arrived.  Very disappointed
> in
> > > how this turned out.
> > >
> > > Any other perspectives would be super helpful.
> > >
> > > Matt
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 1:21 PM BARRY RUEHLEN <ruehbl at msn.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I had a very bizarre experience with Mike Orla as well. Our Rhodes
> > floated
> > >> off the trailer in hurricane Ian and snapped the centerboard in it's
> > short
> > >> journey across our lot. Mike Orla said he had one and we agreed on a
> > price,
> > >> shipped. The saga went on for a couple months with multiple layers of
> > >> weirdness. Such as "Yes I have sent it. Must be lost. Will send you a
> > >> better one I have. So when the other one gets there you will have 2.".
> > This
> > >> is just a piece of the story. We did finally get a centerboard that is
> > in
> > >> reasonable shape. It had been repaired, and I made more repairs.
> > >> Be very cautious of Mike Orla.
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> > >> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
> > >> ________________________________
> > >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of
> > >> Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com>
> > >> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2025 10:22:47 AM
> > >> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes Sails
> > >>
> > >> Hello everyone,
> > >>
> > >> I hope your off season is going well.  It won't be long now!  ;)
> > >>
> > >> This list is always incredibly helpful and collaborative. I am
> grateful
> > for
> > >> the level of experience and encouragement this resource regularly
> > supplies.
> > >>
> > >> My current question is unfortunately of a different nature.
> > >>
> > >> Many of you probably remember a guy by the name of Mike Orla parting
> out
> > >> his father in law's Rhodes on this list.  I reached out to his offer
> > and we
> > >> agreed on a price for his 2018 set of North Sails.  Once he shipped
> them
> > >> however, it became clear that he sent me a fairly used up set of Lees
> > Sails
> > >> that almost immediately started coming apart at the seams .  The
> > >> ensuing saga (I'll spare you the gory details) has led me to believe
> > that
> > >> perhaps he was swindling me from the very beginning.  Which leads me
> to
> > my
> > >> question.  As we consider our options to rectify this situation, it
> > would
> > >> be helpful to know if one of you might have purchased and received
> those
> > >> North Sails from him.  I of course would hold him fully responsible
> for
> > >> this if this was truly the case.  I suppose it's a risk I took dealing
> > with
> > >> a private party.  I have found every other sailor to be 100% helpful
> and
> > >> honest.
> > >>
> > >> If you did buy and receive the North Sails and are willing to let me
> > know,
> > >> that would be very helpful in knowing how best to rectify this
> > situation.
> > >> Please feel free to contact me privately at mwhornblower at gmail.com or
> > >> 612-770-4531
> > >>
> > >> On a related note, if any of you have a genoa in good shape that they
> > would
> > >> be willing to part with, I would be interested.  I don't have the
> > budget at
> > >> the moment (two kids in college) to purchase new.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for bearing with this less than light hearted email.
> > >>
> > >> Sincerely,
> > >> Matt Wilson
> > >> Hornblower II
> > >> White Bear Lake, MN
> > >>
> >
>