Jeffrey

This is a screenshot of the boat Mike is selling which shows the traveler attached to the backstays. I'm sure you have it figured out by now.

I hope Mike doesn't mind...




Todd T

On Thu, Jun 19, 2025, 9:36 AM Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jeffery,
>
> Typically...and I say that loosely because I have only seen about a dozen
> other Rhodes 22s with factory travelers, but the bar style traveler fits
> into those 1" cups (stanchion end caps actually) which are captured on the
> backstays about 15" up from the chainplate fittings attached at the transom
> corners.
> The bar style traveler style has changed a few times over the years; as
> you can see when comparing yours to the picture Mike shared, but they serve
> the same function.
>
> I asked Mike how his attached because some owners have made their own
> travelers in the past to mimic the General Boats bar style and have come up
> with creative ways to attach them to the backstays. Adding the captured end
> caps would require cutting the the swaged eyes off the ends of the stays
> and adding new end fittings such as a Sta-lok or some other aftermarket end
> fitting.
>
> Just for the full history; before about 1985—ish there was no real
> traveler. There only a  cable between the backstay chainplates which had
> enough slack to form a V shape above the tiller handle. The mainsheet
> blocks rode on that cable and you could tow it beamwise...no easy task.
> I have pics on my laptop at home of all of the different styles and pieces
> if you are curious.
> Probably TMI...
>
> Todd T
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 19, 2025, 9:06 AM Jeffrey Camiel <forg3d at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for helping clarify.
>>
>> Actually my question was entirely open ended cause I have no clue what I
>> am doing with this. lol.
>>
>> I do have end caps on the backstays.  I am doing mast raise this weekend.
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jun 19, 2025, at 7:11 AM, Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Mike,
>> > The picture you posted (like the original poster's picture) shows the
>> end
>> > caps on the removed traveler. I thought the end caps were captured on
>> the
>> > backstays.
>> > How does your traveler attach to the backstays if the end caps are not
>> > captured...meaning the backstays do not run through holes in the end
>> caps?
>> > I think this is also Jeffrey's original question.
>> >
>> > Todd T.
>> >
>> >> On Wed, Jun 18, 2025, 6:26 PM Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> This is how it should look (from "da list" archives):
>> >> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2021-May/088137.html
>> >>
>> >> or
>> >>
>> >> http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2018-May/081969.html
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
>> >> Nissequogue River, NY
>> >> I’d rather be sailing :~)
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> On Behalf Of
>> >> ROGER PIHLAJA
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2025 5:22 PM
>> >> To: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> >> Cc: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Traveler setup
>> >>
>> >> Hi Jeff,
>> >>
>> >> The traveler bar does not connect to the stern pulpit.  When the mast
>> is
>> >> stepped, look at the wires on the double backstay.  About 3’ up from
>> the
>> >> deck, you should see a stainless steel socket on each backstay.  The
>> >> traveler bar inserts into these sockets and is held there by fast pins.
>> >> This traveler design has many advantages:
>> >>
>> >> 1.  It’s readily at hand for the helmsman, yet out of the way of
>> cockpit
>> >> traffic.
>> >> 2. Mounting the traveler on the backstays provides a sort of shock
>> >> absorber in case of an accidental crash jibe.
>> >> 3. The control lines can be preset to the desired position prior to
>> coming
>> >> about.
>> >> 4. With 2:1 power, the mainsail can be quickly trimmed.
>> >>
>> >> Once you’ve used it, I think you’ll like it.
>> >>
>> >> Roger Pihlaja
>> >> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
>> >> 1978. Sanford, MI
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >>>> On Jun 18, 2025, at 4:40 PM, Jeffrey Camiel <forg3d at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> How the heck does this trailer connect to the stern pulpit?  And what
>> >> hardware is needed?
>> >>>
>> >>> Or is there a newer one I can buy?
>> >>>
>> >>> Or have most folks modified and put a track in forward of the stern
>> >> locker?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks in advance.
>> >>>
>> >>> Jeff
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