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From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org > on behalf of Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com >
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2025 9:36 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Traveler setup
Jeffery,
Typically...and I say that loosely because I have only seen about a dozen
other Rhodes 22s with factory travelers, but the bar style traveler fits
into those 1" cups (stanchion end caps actually) which are captured on the
backstays about 15" up from the chainplate fittings attached at the transom
corners.
The bar style traveler style has changed a few times over the years; as you
can see when comparing yours to the picture Mike shared, but they serve the
same function.
I asked Mike how his attached because some owners have made their own
travelers in the past to mimic the General Boats bar style and have come up
with creative ways to attach them to the backstays. Adding the captured end
caps would require cutting the the swaged eyes off the ends of the stays
and adding new end fittings such as a Sta-lok or some other aftermarket end
fitting.
Just for the full history; before about 1985—ish there was no real
traveler. There only a cable between the backstay chainplates which had
enough slack to form a V shape above the tiller handle. The mainsheet
blocks rode on that cable and you could tow it beamwise...no easy task.
I have pics on my laptop at home of all of the different styles and pieces
if you are curious.
Probably TMI...
Todd T
On Thu, Jun 19, 2025, 9:06 AM Jeffrey Camiel <forg3d at gmail.com > wrote:
> Thanks for helping clarify.
>
> Actually my question was entirely open ended cause I have no clue what I
> am doing with this. lol.
>
> I do have end caps on the backstays. I am doing mast raise this weekend.
>
>
>
> > On Jun 19, 2025, at 7:11 AM, Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com > wrote:
> >
> > Mike,
> > The picture you posted (like the original poster's picture) shows the end
> > caps on the removed traveler. I thought the end caps were captured on the
> > backstays.
> > How does your traveler attach to the backstays if the end caps are not
> > captured...meaning the backstays do not run through holes in the end
> caps?
> > I think this is also Jeffrey's original question.
> >
> > Todd T.
> >
> >> On Wed, Jun 18, 2025, 6:26 PM Michael D. Weisner <mweisner at ebsmed.com >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> This is how it should look (from "da list" archives):
> >> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2F2021-May%2F088137.html&data=05%7C02%7Crlowe%40vt.edu%7Cbde3fa364997457f92ff08ddaf365411%7C6095688410ad40fa863d4f32c1e3a37a%7C0%7C0%7C638859370076146554%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=znhIG4Wp3pEOmy2KDlFPAA9ZsNhXupivDoUPJUUPVDE%3D&reserved=0<http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2021-May/088137.html >
> >>
> >> or
> >>
> >> https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rhodes22.org%2Fpipermail%2Frhodes22-list%2F2018-May%2F081969.html&data=05%7C02%7Crlowe%40vt.edu%7Cbde3fa364997457f92ff08ddaf365411%7C6095688410ad40fa863d4f32c1e3a37a%7C0%7C0%7C638859370076167498%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C%7C%7C&sdata=A6QAbs8Ul8CEY286I%2FcXnN42rIp9eNMcrbYfG%2FIcXg8%3D&reserved=0<http://www.rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/2018-May/081969.html >
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> s/v Wind Lass ('91)
> >> Nissequogue River, NY
> >> I’d rather be sailing :~)
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org > On Behalf Of
> >> ROGER PIHLAJA
> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2025 5:22 PM
> >> To: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >
> >> Cc: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org >
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Traveler setup
> >>
> >> Hi Jeff,
> >>
> >> The traveler bar does not connect to the stern pulpit. When the mast is
> >> stepped, look at the wires on the double backstay. About 3’ up from the
> >> deck, you should see a stainless steel socket on each backstay. The
> >> traveler bar inserts into these sockets and is held there by fast pins.
> >> This traveler design has many advantages:
> >>
> >> 1. It’s readily at hand for the helmsman, yet out of the way of cockpit
> >> traffic.
> >> 2. Mounting the traveler on the backstays provides a sort of shock
> >> absorber in case of an accidental crash jibe.
> >> 3. The control lines can be preset to the desired position prior to
> coming
> >> about.
> >> 4. With 2:1 power, the mainsail can be quickly trimmed.
> >>
> >> Once you’ve used it, I think you’ll like it.
> >>
> >> Roger Pihlaja
> >> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium
> >> 1978. Sanford, MI
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>>> On Jun 18, 2025, at 4:40 PM, Jeffrey Camiel <forg3d at gmail.com > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> How the heck does this trailer connect to the stern pulpit? And what
> >> hardware is needed?
> >>>
> >>> Or is there a newer one I can buy?
> >>>
> >>> Or have most folks modified and put a track in forward of the stern
> >> locker?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in advance.
> >>>
> >>> Jeff
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