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Otto Ohngren
Cracking
2026-10-27; 14:24:40 EDT
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2022-07-02
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Thank you Roger, Graham, Robert & Chris for your feedback. The cockpit sole does have that solid concrete feel with no detectable flexing and there is no visible sign of deterioration in the cabin or bulkhead area. That said, a professional survey could be helpful on several fronts and feels like a sound idea. Thanks again and best regards, -Otto Sent from my iPhoneSee the original archive post
> On Oct 27, 2026, at 12:51 AM, rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org wrote: > Send Rhodes22-list mailing list submissions to > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > rhodes22-list-request at rhodes22.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > rhodes22-list-owner at rhodes22.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Rhodes22-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. New Sail Fabric (Matt Wilson) > 2. Cockpit Drainage Channel - Cracking (Otto Ohngren) > 3. Re: Cockpit Drainage Channel - Cracking (ROGER PIHLAJA) > 4. Re: Cockpit Drainage Channel - Cracking (Graham Stewart) > 5. Re: Cockpit Drainage Channel - Cracking (Weiss, Robert L) > 6. Re: Last call for my Rhodes 22 - $1700 (Ed McNamara) > 7. Re: Last call for my Rhodes 22 - $1700 (Tom Hyatt) > 8. Solar panels and battery storage? (Bob Garrant) > 9. Re: Cockpit Drainage Channel - Cracking (Chris Geankoplis) > 10. Re: Solar panels and battery storage? (Ric Stott) > 11. Re: Cockpit Drainage Channel - Cracking (Ric Stott) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2026 13:13:09 -0500 > From: Matt Wilson <mwhornblower at gmail.com> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] New Sail Fabric > Message-ID: > <CANbEFCs+Ach5sGPoSM_+HY+hT9WGc3UVMzC8-HCo5bQVRdD2og at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello everyone, > > I I am planning to buy a new suit of sails. I have become aware that Most > Rhodes 22?s came with Doyle super cruise sails. I am wondering if I could > get some perspective from the list about general quality and durability of > that sail cloth. How long does it last and how long does it keep a decent > shape? > > My boat sits on a mooring about six months out of the year on a big lake in > Minnesota. I do get out there pretty regularly during the summer. It sits > shrink wrapped all winter. > > I am mostly interested in durability, though performance would be nice as > well. > > I am planning to purchase the 155 Genoa. I would take your thoughts on > that topic as well. > > Many thanks for whatever help or perspective you can give > > Matt Wilson > Hornblower II > White Bear Lake, MN > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2026 15:09:13 -0700 > From: Otto Ohngren <ohngreno at gmail.com> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Drainage Channel - Cracking > Message-ID: <B0B171B3-A37F-44A5-BA48-AAD33C241E1B at gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > ?Hello from Oregon, > > My Rhodes 22 was manufactured in 1992 and factory refurbished in 2012. It is sailed on the Columbia River near Hermiston. > > Cracking has developed in the cockpit drainage channel at the aft end of the boat along the bottom exterior of the lazarette. The cracks are on both sides of the scupper hole. They may be the result of a prior freezing event. On the inside of the lazarette the bulkhead seems solid. > > Visible from inside the lazarette below the bulkhead is a slightly recessed parallel secondary wall, which continues to the bottom of the hull. It is positioned near where the scupper plumbing comes through the lazarette. The aft end of the cockpit tub floor (my term) is above that thin secondary wall. There appears to be flotation material on the other side of the wall. The fiberglass fabric making up that secondary wall is deteriorated and torn. > > I?m wondering how common these two conditions are, how serious are they, and what is the best way to repair them? Are the repairs something a versatile owner with no prior fiberglass experience can properly accomplish or are they best left to a pro? Qualified marine fiberglass professionals, if any, are scant in these parts. I?m going to be selling her one of these days and want to ensure these two issues are properly remedied. > > Any insight or suggestions for the good of the cause will be very much appreciated. 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The foam compartment is separated from the lazerette by the bulkhead you are asking about. If you check in the cabin, you will find a similar bulkhead at the aft end of the cabin back up under the step. If these 2 bulkheads are compromised, it is possible for bilge water to move from the cabin bilge to the lazerette and vice versa. If your cockpit/lazerette bulkhead shows damage; then, it is likely your cockpit/cabin bulkhead is damaged as well. If you have water infiltration into the under cockpit foam, this would be very serious. It?s probably not a DIY repair job. Does your cockpit sole feel ?punky? or does it oil can? It should feel as rigid as a concrete sidewalk. You should have the boat surveyed. This may cost more to repair than the boat is worth. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. > > Roger Pihlaja > S/V Dynamic Equilibrium > Sanford, MI 1978 > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 25, 2026, at 6:09?PM, Otto Ohngren <ohngreno at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> ?Hello from Oregon, >> >> My Rhodes 22 was manufactured in 1992 and factory refurbished in 2012. It is sailed on the Columbia River near Hermiston. >> >> Cracking has developed in the cockpit drainage channel at the aft end of the boat along the bottom exterior of the lazarette. The cracks are on both sides of the scupper hole. They may be the result of a prior freezing event. On the inside of the lazarette the bulkhead seems solid. >> >> Visible from inside the lazarette below the bulkhead is a slightly recessed parallel secondary wall, which continues to the bottom of the hull. It is positioned near where the scupper plumbing comes through the lazarette. The aft end of the cockpit tub floor (my term) is above that thin secondary wall. There appears to be flotation material on the other side of the wall. The fiberglass fabric making up that secondary wall is deteriorated and torn. >> >> I?m wondering how common these two conditions are, how serious are they, and what is the best way to repair them? Are the repairs something a versatile owner with no prior fiberglass experience can properly accomplish or are they best left to a pro? Qualified marine fiberglass professionals, if any, are scant in these parts. I?m going to be selling her one of these days and want to ensure these two issues are properly remedied. >> >> Any insight or suggestions for the good of the cause will be very much appreciated. 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As water intrusion below the sole is always possible, if not inevitable, it makes sense to me that it is there. > > The purpose of the foam, as I understand it, was to give the boat buoyancy should it be swamped so it was ?unsinkable ?. I have not heard of a case where that was actually tested. > Personally, I would grind out the crack in the lazerette and reglass it - especially if your boat is subject to freezing in the winter. > I would look for cracks or holes in the cabin sole where water might get in and fix them. > If there is a drain hole below the companion way, I would make sure it isn?t blocked and then use a tube connected to a shop vac to blow air into the cavity for 12 hours or so to dry out the cavity. If the is no drain hole I would be tempted to make one. You don?t want water to get trapped there. > > If the cabin sole is very soft, you might cut it out to remove the old foam and replace it. That is not an impossible job but, personally, I would not do it unless the sole is so soft it was cracking. > > Not having full flotation makes the Rhodes 22 more like every other boat out there. Repairing fibreglass is a pita for sure but not particularly difficult. I would be very reluctant to assume the boat is a write off if it is otherwise ok. > > Graham > Agile, 1976 > >> On Oct 26, 2026, at 2:10?AM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote: >> >> ?Hi Otto, >> >> There is floatation foam under the cockpit. The foam compartment is separated from the lazerette by the bulkhead you are asking about. If you check in the cabin, you will find a similar bulkhead at the aft end of the cabin back up under the step. If these 2 bulkheads are compromised, it is possible for bilge water to move from the cabin bilge to the lazerette and vice versa. If your cockpit/lazerette bulkhead shows damage; then, it is likely your cockpit/cabin bulkhead is damaged as well. If you have water infiltration into the under cockpit foam, this would be very serious. It?s probably not a DIY repair job. Does your cockpit sole feel ?punky? or does it oil can? It should feel as rigid as a concrete sidewalk. You should have the boat surveyed. This may cost more to repair than the boat is worth. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. >> >> Roger Pihlaja >> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium >> Sanford, MI 1978 >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Oct 25, 2026, at 6:09?PM, Otto Ohngren <ohngreno at gmail.com> wrote: >>> ?Hello from Oregon, >>> My Rhodes 22 was manufactured in 1992 and factory refurbished in 2012. It is sailed on the Columbia River near Hermiston. >>> Cracking has developed in the cockpit drainage channel at the aft end of the boat along the bottom exterior of the lazarette. The cracks are on both sides of the scupper hole. They may be the result of a prior freezing event. On the inside of the lazarette the bulkhead seems solid. >>> Visible from inside the lazarette below the bulkhead is a slightly recessed parallel secondary wall, which continues to the bottom of the hull. It is positioned near where the scupper plumbing comes through the lazarette. The aft end of the cockpit tub floor (my term) is above that thin secondary wall. There appears to be flotation material on the other side of the wall. The fiberglass fabric making up that secondary wall is deteriorated and torn. >>> I?m wondering how common these two conditions are, how serious are they, and what is the best way to repair them? Are the repairs something a versatile owner with no prior fiberglass experience can properly accomplish or are they best left to a pro? Qualified marine fiberglass professionals, if any, are scant in these parts. I?m going to be selling her one of these days and want to ensure these two issues are properly remedied. >>> Any insight or suggestions for the good of the cause will be very much appreciated. Photos are attached. >>> Thank you, >>> -Otto Ohngren >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: image2.jpeg >>> Type: image/jpeg >>> Size: 86879 bytes >>> Desc: not available >>> URL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20261025/680715b7/attachment.jpeg> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: image3.jpeg >>> Type: image/jpeg >>> Size: 152733 bytes >>> Desc: not available >>> URL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20261025/680715b7/attachment-0001.jpeg> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: image4.jpeg >>> Type: image/jpeg >>> Size: 127888 bytes >>> Desc: not available >>> URL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20261025/680715b7/attachment-0002.jpeg> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: image0.jpeg >>> Type: image/jpeg >>> Size: 89352 bytes >>> Desc: not available >>> URL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20261025/680715b7/attachment-0003.jpeg> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: image1.jpeg >>> Type: image/jpeg >>> Size: 121660 bytes >>> Desc: not available >>> URL: <http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20261025/680715b7/attachment-0004.jpeg> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> Sent from my iPhone > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2026 16:41:53 +0000 > From: "Weiss, Robert L" <rweiss at siu.edu> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Drainage Channel - Cracking > Message-ID: > <CH3PR07MB9981BE01DE5B67DF9B68B051C6612 at CH3PR07MB9981.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I'm pretty sure the boat is unsinkable. As for a while, Stan had a photo online of one completely full of water and still not sunk. (Only Stan would do that.) > > Bob > > Dr. Robert L Weiss Jr. > Director of Music > First United Methodist Carbondale, IL > Professor Emeritus, SIUC > S/V Beach Spring > ________________________________ > From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Graham Stewart <graham at debgraham.ca> > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2026 11:38 AM > To: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Drainage Channel - Cracking > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or attachments. > > On my boat the lazerette bulkhead is sealed off but the bulkhead under the companion way has what I have always thought was a drain hole. As water intrusion below the sole is always possible, if not inevitable, it makes sense to me that it is there. > > The purpose of the foam, as I understand it, was to give the boat buoyancy should it be swamped so it was ?unsinkable ?. I have not heard of a case where that was actually tested. > Personally, I would grind out the crack in the lazerette and reglass it - especially if your boat is subject to freezing in the winter. > I would look for cracks or holes in the cabin sole where water might get in and fix them. > If there is a drain hole below the companion way, I would make sure it isn?t blocked and then use a tube connected to a shop vac to blow air into the cavity for 12 hours or so to dry out the cavity. If the is no drain hole I would be tempted to make one. You don?t want water to get trapped there. > > If the cabin sole is very soft, you might cut it out to remove the old foam and replace it. That is not an impossible job but, personally, I would not do it unless the sole is so soft it was cracking. > > Not having full flotation makes the Rhodes 22 more like every other boat out there. Repairing fibreglass is a pita for sure but not particularly difficult. I would be very reluctant to assume the boat is a write off if it is otherwise ok. > > Graham > Agile, 1976 > >> On Oct 26, 2026, at 2:10?AM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote: >> >> ?Hi Otto, >> >> There is floatation foam under the cockpit. The foam compartment is separated from the lazerette by the bulkhead you are asking about. If you check in the cabin, you will find a similar bulkhead at the aft end of the cabin back up under the step. If these 2 bulkheads are compromised, it is possible for bilge water to move from the cabin bilge to the lazerette and vice versa. If your cockpit/lazerette bulkhead shows damage; then, it is likely your cockpit/cabin bulkhead is damaged as well. If you have water infiltration into the under cockpit foam, this would be very serious. It?s probably not a DIY repair job. Does your cockpit sole feel ?punky? or does it oil can? It should feel as rigid as a concrete sidewalk. You should have the boat surveyed. This may cost more to repair than the boat is worth. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. >> >> Roger Pihlaja >> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium >> Sanford, MI 1978 >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Oct 25, 2026, at 6:09?PM, Otto Ohngren <ohngreno at gmail.com> wrote: >>> ?Hello from Oregon, >>> My Rhodes 22 was manufactured in 1992 and factory refurbished in 2012. It is sailed on the Columbia River near Hermiston. >>> Cracking has developed in the cockpit drainage channel at the aft end of the boat along the bottom exterior of the lazarette. The cracks are on both sides of the scupper hole. They may be the result of a prior freezing event. On the inside of the lazarette the bulkhead seems solid. >>> Visible from inside the lazarette below the bulkhead is a slightly recessed parallel secondary wall, which continues to the bottom of the hull. It is positioned near where the scupper plumbing comes through the lazarette. The aft end of the cockpit tub floor (my term) is above that thin secondary wall. There appears to be flotation material on the other side of the wall. The fiberglass fabric making up that secondary wall is deteriorated and torn. >>> I?m wondering how common these two conditions are, how serious are they, and what is the best way to repair them? Are the repairs something a versatile owner with no prior fiberglass experience can properly accomplish or are they best left to a pro? Qualified marine fiberglass professionals, if any, are scant in these parts. I?m going to be selling her one of these days and want to ensure these two issues are properly remedied. >>> Any insight or suggestions for the good of the cause will be very much appreciated. 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Also what would you take for the >> boat trailer and motor. I?d have to drive over from KS to >> ? Bal?more ? anyway ant the prove on your boat is really good. That would >> give me 3 Rhodes and two trailers. Oh, what is the vintage on the trailer? >> Chris Geankoplis >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>>> On Oct 19, 2026, at 2:27?PM, Rick Clairmont <1rino67 at gmail.com> wrote: >>> ?Hi Tom, >>> my name is Rick Clairmont, I have a '91 Rhodes. >>> I'm interested in your boat for my kids when would be a good time for you >>> to discuss. >>> you can email me directly at 1Rino67 at gmail.com. >>> thanks, >>> Rick >>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2026 at 1:52?PM Tom Hyatt via Rhodes22-list < >>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: >>>> I am making one last effort to sell my Rhodes 22 to someone who will >>>> continue to use it. It's a 1978 model but it's been well cared for and >> in >>>> great shape inside and out. I hauled it out of its slip last Friday >> after >>>> using it all summer. It is currently at Maryland Marina in Essex, >>>> Maryland. I am selling it because, at 81, I am ready to move on to >>>> something easier to use on the water. And, my wife and sailing partner >> has >>>> much less time to sail with me now that she has taken a new full-time >> job. >>>> I have all the paperwork and titles for the boat and trailer. >>>> I am asking $1700 for the boat and trailer without the motor. Let me >> know >>>> in the next day or so since I will be moving ahead with the donation if >> I >>>> don't hear from anyone. >>>> * New *Precision Sail* Genoa - Bought in 2024 >>>> * New *ProFurl* jib furling system - installed in 2024 >>>> * New stainless steel bow pulpit and stern rail to replace the old >> aluminum >>>> railings from the original construction. 2023 >>>> * New mainsail cover - 2026 >>>> * All wiring replaced - 2023 >>>> * New bilge pump >>>> * New battery cut-off switch >>>> * New Garmin GPS system - 2023 >>>> * VHF Marine radio installed - 2023 >>>> * New windex and mastlight - 2026 >>>> * All original signal and cabin lights replaced with LED lights - 2022 >>>> * Solar panel for maintaining battery >>>> * New tires and wheels and bearings on trailer - 2021 Less than 200 >> miles >>>> on both. >>>> * New winch on trailer >>>> * Custom-made canvas cover for winter storage >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>>> Name: Trailer.jpg >>>> Type: image/jpeg >>>> Size: 1956145 bytes >>>> Desc: not available >>>> URL: < >> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20261019/03e473f2/attachment.jpg >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>>> Name: Elizajane-smalle-file-size.jpg >>>> Type: image/jpeg >>>> Size: 1298458 bytes >>>> Desc: not available >>>> URL: < >> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20261019/03e473f2/attachment-0001.jpg > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2026 16:07:56 -0400 > From: Tom Hyatt <thyatt at mica.edu> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Last call for my Rhodes 22 - $1700 > Message-ID: > <CAEhtY2Lawz=KddP7GRgHK8cfPxrj_j65AeNBxnW=gyddgN-+sQ at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Nope Ed. No dodger. Sorry. > > Tom >> On Mon, Oct 26, 2026 at 4:06?PM Ed McNamara <edmc18 at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Tom, >> You didn?t mention a Dodger so I assume you don?t have one but thought I?d >> ask, just in case. >> On Mon, Oct 19, 2026 at 10:21?PM Chris Geankoplis < >> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hey Tom, tell me again about the motor. Also what would you take for the >>> boat trailer and motor. I?d have to drive over from KS to >>> ? Bal?more ? anyway ant the prove on your boat is really good. That >> would >>> give me 3 Rhodes and two trailers. Oh, what is the vintage on the >> trailer? >>> Chris Geankoplis >>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> On Oct 19, 2026, at 2:27?PM, Rick Clairmont <1rino67 at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> ?Hi Tom, >>>> my name is Rick Clairmont, I have a '91 Rhodes. >>>> I'm interested in your boat for my kids when would be a good time for >> you >>>> to discuss. >>>> you can email me directly at 1Rino67 at gmail.com. >>>> thanks, >>>> Rick >>>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2026 at 1:52?PM Tom Hyatt via Rhodes22-list < >>>>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: >>>>> I am making one last effort to sell my Rhodes 22 to someone who will >>>>> continue to use it. It's a 1978 model but it's been well cared for and >>> in >>>>> great shape inside and out. I hauled it out of its slip last Friday >>> after >>>>> using it all summer. It is currently at Maryland Marina in Essex, >>>>> Maryland. I am selling it because, at 81, I am ready to move on to >>>>> something easier to use on the water. And, my wife and sailing partner >>> has >>>>> much less time to sail with me now that she has taken a new full-time >>> job. >>>>> I have all the paperwork and titles for the boat and trailer. >>>>> I am asking $1700 for the boat and trailer without the motor. Let me >>> know >>>>> in the next day or so since I will be moving ahead with the donation >> if >>> I >>>>> don't hear from anyone. >>>>> * New *Precision Sail* Genoa - Bought in 2024 >>>>> * New *ProFurl* jib furling system - installed in 2024 >>>>> * New stainless steel bow pulpit and stern rail to replace the old >>> aluminum >>>>> railings from the original construction. 2023 >>>>> * New mainsail cover - 2026 >>>>> * All wiring replaced - 2023 >>>>> * New bilge pump >>>>> * New battery cut-off switch >>>>> * New Garmin GPS system - 2023 >>>>> * VHF Marine radio installed - 2023 >>>>> * New windex and mastlight - 2026 >>>>> * All original signal and cabin lights replaced with LED lights - 2022 >>>>> * Solar panel for maintaining battery >>>>> * New tires and wheels and bearings on trailer - 2021 Less than 200 >>> miles >>>>> on both. >>>>> * New winch on trailer >>>>> * Custom-made canvas cover for winter storage >>>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>>>> Name: Trailer.jpg >>>>> Type: image/jpeg >>>>> Size: 1956145 bytes >>>>> Desc: not available >>>>> URL: < >> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20261019/03e473f2/attachment.jpg >>>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>>>> Name: Elizajane-smalle-file-size.jpg >>>>> Type: image/jpeg >>>>> Size: 1298458 bytes >>>>> Desc: not available >>>>> URL: < >> http://rhodes22.org/pipermail/rhodes22-list/attachments/20261019/03e473f2/attachment-0001.jpg > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2026 16:30:29 -0400 > From: Bob Garrant <bgarrant at gmail.com> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> > Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Solar panels and battery storage? > Message-ID: > <CAPi3tBAeSmfQJwBm8fFW9Qj6K-Rw1+bho010DFdoTCRr=TTVOA at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I have two solar panels that charge two deep cycle batteries. > I would like to: > - remove the batteries and trickle charge them over the winter > - tarp the boat for the winter > > Normally I left the batteries in the boat and did not tarp it to let the > solar panels charge thee batteries. > > Any issues with that? > > Thanks > Bob Garrant > s/v Sail la Vie > Kent Island, MD > > > Bob > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2026 at 12:41?PM Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list < > rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: > >> I'm pretty sure the boat is unsinkable. As for a while, Stan had a photo >> online of one completely full of water and still not sunk. (Only Stan would >> do that.) >> >> Bob >> >> Dr. Robert L Weiss Jr. >> Director of Music >> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL >> Professor Emeritus, SIUC >> S/V Beach Spring >> ________________________________ >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of >> Graham Stewart <graham at debgraham.ca> >> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2026 11:38 AM >> To: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Drainage Channel - Cracking >> >> [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or attachments. >> >> On my boat the lazerette bulkhead is sealed off but the bulkhead under the >> companion way has what I have always thought was a drain hole. As water >> intrusion below the sole is always possible, if not inevitable, it makes >> sense to me that it is there. >> >> The purpose of the foam, as I understand it, was to give the boat buoyancy >> should it be swamped so it was ?unsinkable ?. I have not heard of a case >> where that was actually tested. >> Personally, I would grind out the crack in the lazerette and reglass it - >> especially if your boat is subject to freezing in the winter. >> I would look for cracks or holes in the cabin sole where water might get >> in and fix them. >> If there is a drain hole below the companion way, I would make sure it >> isn?t blocked and then use a tube connected to a shop vac to blow air into >> the cavity for 12 hours or so to dry out the cavity. If the is no drain >> hole I would be tempted to make one. You don?t want water to get trapped >> there. >> >> If the cabin sole is very soft, you might cut it out to remove the old >> foam and replace it. That is not an impossible job but, personally, I would >> not do it unless the sole is so soft it was cracking. >> >> Not having full flotation makes the Rhodes 22 more like every other boat >> out there. Repairing fibreglass is a pita for sure but not particularly >> difficult. I would be very reluctant to assume the boat is a write off if >> it is otherwise ok. >> >> Graham >> Agile, 1976 >> >>> On Oct 26, 2026, at 2:10?AM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> >> wrote: >>> ?Hi Otto, >>> There is floatation foam under the cockpit. The foam compartment is >> separated from the lazerette by the bulkhead you are asking about. If you >> check in the cabin, you will find a similar bulkhead at the aft end of the >> cabin back up under the step. If these 2 bulkheads are compromised, it is >> possible for bilge water to move from the cabin bilge to the lazerette and >> vice versa. If your cockpit/lazerette bulkhead shows damage; then, it is >> likely your cockpit/cabin bulkhead is damaged as well. If you have water >> infiltration into the under cockpit foam, this would be very serious. It?s >> probably not a DIY repair job. Does your cockpit sole feel ?punky? or does >> it oil can? It should feel as rigid as a concrete sidewalk. You should >> have the boat surveyed. This may cost more to repair than the boat is >> worth. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. >>> Roger Pihlaja >>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium >>> Sanford, MI 1978 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> On Oct 25, 2026, at 6:09?PM, Otto Ohngren <ohngreno at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> ?Hello from Oregon, >>>> My Rhodes 22 was manufactured in 1992 and factory refurbished in 2012. >> It is sailed on the Columbia River near Hermiston. >>>> Cracking has developed in the cockpit drainage channel at the aft end >> of the boat along the bottom exterior of the lazarette. The cracks are on >> both sides of the scupper hole. They may be the result of a prior freezing >> event. On the inside of the lazarette the bulkhead seems solid. >>>> Visible from inside the lazarette below the bulkhead is a slightly >> recessed parallel secondary wall, which continues to the bottom of the >> hull. It is positioned near where the scupper plumbing comes through the >> lazarette. The aft end of the cockpit tub floor (my term) is above that >> thin secondary wall. There appears to be flotation material on the other >> side of the wall. The fiberglass fabric making up that secondary wall is >> deteriorated and torn. >>>> I?m wondering how common these two conditions are, how serious are >> they, and what is the best way to repair them? Are the repairs something a >> versatile owner with no prior fiberglass experience can properly accomplish >> or are they best left to a pro? Qualified marine fiberglass professionals, >> if any, are scant in these parts. I?m going to be selling her one of these >> days and want to ensure these two issues are properly remedied. >>>> Any insight or suggestions for the good of the cause will be very much >> appreciated. 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According to witnesses, the boat was knocked down and the mast hit the shallow mud bottom and the boat was slowly ?pole vaulted up and the mast pushed all the way down into the mud. The next day we returned to the turtled boat and undid the back stays, forstay and remaining side stays. With a shove the boat righted itself. We climbed in and using a couple of 5 gallon buckets, had it bailed out pretty quickly. No structural damage, the boat floated evenly and after bailing towed it over to Knapp Narrows. I can say with certainty the foam flotation works. > Chris Geankoplis > ?76 Moonspinner ( at that time) > >> On Oct 26, 2026, at 11:41?AM, Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: >> >> ?I'm pretty sure the boat is unsinkable. As for a while, Stan had a photo online of one completely full of water and still not sunk. (Only Stan would do that.) >> >> Bob >> >> Dr. Robert L Weiss Jr. >> Director of Music >> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL >> Professor Emeritus, SIUC >> S/V Beach Spring >> ________________________________ >> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Graham Stewart <graham at debgraham.ca> >> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2026 11:38 AM >> To: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Drainage Channel - Cracking >> >> [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or attachments. >> >> On my boat the lazerette bulkhead is sealed off but the bulkhead under the companion way has what I have always thought was a drain hole. As water intrusion below the sole is always possible, if not inevitable, it makes sense to me that it is there. >> >> The purpose of the foam, as I understand it, was to give the boat buoyancy should it be swamped so it was ?unsinkable ?. I have not heard of a case where that was actually tested. >> Personally, I would grind out the crack in the lazerette and reglass it - especially if your boat is subject to freezing in the winter. >> I would look for cracks or holes in the cabin sole where water might get in and fix them. >> If there is a drain hole below the companion way, I would make sure it isn?t blocked and then use a tube connected to a shop vac to blow air into the cavity for 12 hours or so to dry out the cavity. If the is no drain hole I would be tempted to make one. You don?t want water to get trapped there. >> >> If the cabin sole is very soft, you might cut it out to remove the old foam and replace it. That is not an impossible job but, personally, I would not do it unless the sole is so soft it was cracking. >> >> Not having full flotation makes the Rhodes 22 more like every other boat out there. Repairing fibreglass is a pita for sure but not particularly difficult. I would be very reluctant to assume the boat is a write off if it is otherwise ok. >> >> Graham >> Agile, 1976 >> >>>> On Oct 26, 2026, at 2:10?AM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote: >>> ?Hi Otto, >>> There is floatation foam under the cockpit. The foam compartment is separated from the lazerette by the bulkhead you are asking about. If you check in the cabin, you will find a similar bulkhead at the aft end of the cabin back up under the step. If these 2 bulkheads are compromised, it is possible for bilge water to move from the cabin bilge to the lazerette and vice versa. If your cockpit/lazerette bulkhead shows damage; then, it is likely your cockpit/cabin bulkhead is damaged as well. If you have water infiltration into the under cockpit foam, this would be very serious. It?s probably not a DIY repair job. Does your cockpit sole feel ?punky? or does it oil can? It should feel as rigid as a concrete sidewalk. You should have the boat surveyed. This may cost more to repair than the boat is worth. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. >>> Roger Pihlaja >>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium >>> Sanford, MI 1978 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> On Oct 25, 2026, at 6:09?PM, Otto Ohngren <ohngreno at gmail.com> wrote: >>>> ?Hello from Oregon, >>>> My Rhodes 22 was manufactured in 1992 and factory refurbished in 2012. It is sailed on the Columbia River near Hermiston. >>>> Cracking has developed in the cockpit drainage channel at the aft end of the boat along the bottom exterior of the lazarette. The cracks are on both sides of the scupper hole. They may be the result of a prior freezing event. On the inside of the lazarette the bulkhead seems solid. >>>> Visible from inside the lazarette below the bulkhead is a slightly recessed parallel secondary wall, which continues to the bottom of the hull. It is positioned near where the scupper plumbing comes through the lazarette. The aft end of the cockpit tub floor (my term) is above that thin secondary wall. There appears to be flotation material on the other side of the wall. The fiberglass fabric making up that secondary wall is deteriorated and torn. >>>> I?m wondering how common these two conditions are, how serious are they, and what is the best way to repair them? Are the repairs something a versatile owner with no prior fiberglass experience can properly accomplish or are they best left to a pro? Qualified marine fiberglass professionals, if any, are scant in these parts. I?m going to be selling her one of these days and want to ensure these two issues are properly remedied. >>>> Any insight or suggestions for the good of the cause will be very much appreciated. 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I?m sure that water can pass from cabin to the area under the cockpit. The area forward of the center board is the low spot of the bilge. > I have a couple of times filled the cabin to the floor boards. Long story. But when I got pumped out and sponged dry, a half hour later there is another quart or two of water. It has to be coming from the cockpit foam area. I really don?t thin one should trap water in there. > If the cockpit cabin bulkhead were sealed , that area could fill any voids and add a lot of weight to the boat. It makes no sense to me > Ric > Dadventure. > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 26, 2026, at 1:30?PM, Bob Garrant <bgarrant at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> ?I have two solar panels that charge two deep cycle batteries. >> I would like to: >> - remove the batteries and trickle charge them over the winter >> - tarp the boat for the winter >> >> Normally I left the batteries in the boat and did not tarp it to let the >> solar panels charge thee batteries. >> >> Any issues with that? >> >> Thanks >> Bob Garrant >> s/v Sail la Vie >> Kent Island, MD >> >> >> Bob >> >>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2026 at 12:41?PM Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list < >>> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: >>> I'm pretty sure the boat is unsinkable. As for a while, Stan had a photo >>> online of one completely full of water and still not sunk. (Only Stan would >>> do that.) >>> Bob >>> Dr. Robert L Weiss Jr. >>> Director of Music >>> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL >>> Professor Emeritus, SIUC >>> S/V Beach Spring >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of >>> Graham Stewart <graham at debgraham.ca> >>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2026 11:38 AM >>> To: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Drainage Channel - Cracking >>> [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or attachments. >>> On my boat the lazerette bulkhead is sealed off but the bulkhead under the >>> companion way has what I have always thought was a drain hole. As water >>> intrusion below the sole is always possible, if not inevitable, it makes >>> sense to me that it is there. >>> The purpose of the foam, as I understand it, was to give the boat buoyancy >>> should it be swamped so it was ?unsinkable ?. I have not heard of a case >>> where that was actually tested. >>> Personally, I would grind out the crack in the lazerette and reglass it - >>> especially if your boat is subject to freezing in the winter. >>> I would look for cracks or holes in the cabin sole where water might get >>> in and fix them. >>> If there is a drain hole below the companion way, I would make sure it >>> isn?t blocked and then use a tube connected to a shop vac to blow air into >>> the cavity for 12 hours or so to dry out the cavity. If the is no drain >>> hole I would be tempted to make one. You don?t want water to get trapped >>> there. >>> If the cabin sole is very soft, you might cut it out to remove the old >>> foam and replace it. That is not an impossible job but, personally, I would >>> not do it unless the sole is so soft it was cracking. >>> Not having full flotation makes the Rhodes 22 more like every other boat >>> out there. Repairing fibreglass is a pita for sure but not particularly >>> difficult. I would be very reluctant to assume the boat is a write off if >>> it is otherwise ok. >>> Graham >>> Agile, 1976 >>>> On Oct 26, 2026, at 2:10?AM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> >>> wrote: >>>> ?Hi Otto, >>>> There is floatation foam under the cockpit. The foam compartment is >>> separated from the lazerette by the bulkhead you are asking about. If you >>> check in the cabin, you will find a similar bulkhead at the aft end of the >>> cabin back up under the step. If these 2 bulkheads are compromised, it is >>> possible for bilge water to move from the cabin bilge to the lazerette and >>> vice versa. If your cockpit/lazerette bulkhead shows damage; then, it is >>> likely your cockpit/cabin bulkhead is damaged as well. If you have water >>> infiltration into the under cockpit foam, this would be very serious. It?s >>> probably not a DIY repair job. Does your cockpit sole feel ?punky? or does >>> it oil can? It should feel as rigid as a concrete sidewalk. You should >>> have the boat surveyed. This may cost more to repair than the boat is >>> worth. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. >>>> Roger Pihlaja >>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium >>>> Sanford, MI 1978 >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> On Oct 25, 2026, at 6:09?PM, Otto Ohngren <ohngreno at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> ?Hello from Oregon, >>>>> My Rhodes 22 was manufactured in 1992 and factory refurbished in 2012. >>> It is sailed on the Columbia River near Hermiston. >>>>> Cracking has developed in the cockpit drainage channel at the aft end >>> of the boat along the bottom exterior of the lazarette. The cracks are on >>> both sides of the scupper hole. They may be the result of a prior freezing >>> event. On the inside of the lazarette the bulkhead seems solid. >>>>> Visible from inside the lazarette below the bulkhead is a slightly >>> recessed parallel secondary wall, which continues to the bottom of the >>> hull. It is positioned near where the scupper plumbing comes through the >>> lazarette. The aft end of the cockpit tub floor (my term) is above that >>> thin secondary wall. There appears to be flotation material on the other >>> side of the wall. The fiberglass fabric making up that secondary wall is >>> deteriorated and torn. >>>>> I?m wondering how common these two conditions are, how serious are >>> they, and what is the best way to repair them? Are the repairs something a >>> versatile owner with no prior fiberglass experience can properly accomplish >>> or are they best left to a pro? Qualified marine fiberglass professionals, >>> if any, are scant in these parts. I?m going to be selling her one of these >>> days and want to ensure these two issues are properly remedied. >>>>> Any insight or suggestions for the good of the cause will be very much >>> appreciated. 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Did you get the mast out too ? > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 26, 2026, at 2:09?PM, Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote: >> >> ?I had my first brand new (1976) Rhodes 22 for two years until a tornado hit the boat while anchored in the ?pot? at poPlar Island on the Chesapeake. According to witnesses, the boat was knocked down and the mast hit the shallow mud bottom and the boat was slowly ?pole vaulted up and the mast pushed all the way down into the mud. The next day we returned to the turtled boat and undid the back stays, forstay and remaining side stays. With a shove the boat righted itself. We climbed in and using a couple of 5 gallon buckets, had it bailed out pretty quickly. No structural damage, the boat floated evenly and after bailing towed it over to Knapp Narrows. I can say with certainty the foam flotation works. >> Chris Geankoplis >> ?76 Moonspinner ( at that time) >> >>>> On Oct 26, 2026, at 11:41?AM, Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: >>> ?I'm pretty sure the boat is unsinkable. As for a while, Stan had a photo online of one completely full of water and still not sunk. (Only Stan would do that.) >>> Bob >>> Dr. Robert L Weiss Jr. >>> Director of Music >>> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL >>> Professor Emeritus, SIUC >>> S/V Beach Spring >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Rhodes22-list <rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of Graham Stewart <graham at debgraham.ca> >>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2026 11:38 AM >>> To: The Rhodes Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Drainage Channel - Cracking >>> [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or attachments. >>> On my boat the lazerette bulkhead is sealed off but the bulkhead under the companion way has what I have always thought was a drain hole. As water intrusion below the sole is always possible, if not inevitable, it makes sense to me that it is there. >>> The purpose of the foam, as I understand it, was to give the boat buoyancy should it be swamped so it was ?unsinkable ?. I have not heard of a case where that was actually tested. >>> Personally, I would grind out the crack in the lazerette and reglass it - especially if your boat is subject to freezing in the winter. >>> I would look for cracks or holes in the cabin sole where water might get in and fix them. >>> If there is a drain hole below the companion way, I would make sure it isn?t blocked and then use a tube connected to a shop vac to blow air into the cavity for 12 hours or so to dry out the cavity. If the is no drain hole I would be tempted to make one. You don?t want water to get trapped there. >>> If the cabin sole is very soft, you might cut it out to remove the old foam and replace it. That is not an impossible job but, personally, I would not do it unless the sole is so soft it was cracking. >>> Not having full flotation makes the Rhodes 22 more like every other boat out there. Repairing fibreglass is a pita for sure but not particularly difficult. I would be very reluctant to assume the boat is a write off if it is otherwise ok. >>> Graham >>> Agile, 1976 >>>>> On Oct 26, 2026, at 2:10?AM, ROGER PIHLAJA <roger_pihlaja at msn.com> wrote: >>>> ?Hi Otto, >>>> There is floatation foam under the cockpit. The foam compartment is separated from the lazerette by the bulkhead you are asking about. If you check in the cabin, you will find a similar bulkhead at the aft end of the cabin back up under the step. If these 2 bulkheads are compromised, it is possible for bilge water to move from the cabin bilge to the lazerette and vice versa. If your cockpit/lazerette bulkhead shows damage; then, it is likely your cockpit/cabin bulkhead is damaged as well. If you have water infiltration into the under cockpit foam, this would be very serious. It?s probably not a DIY repair job. Does your cockpit sole feel ?punky? or does it oil can? It should feel as rigid as a concrete sidewalk. You should have the boat surveyed. This may cost more to repair than the boat is worth. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. >>>> Roger Pihlaja >>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium >>>> Sanford, MI 1978 >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> On Oct 25, 2026, at 6:09?PM, Otto Ohngren <ohngreno at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> ?Hello from Oregon, >>>>> My Rhodes 22 was manufactured in 1992 and factory refurbished in 2012. It is sailed on the Columbia River near Hermiston. >>>>> Cracking has developed in the cockpit drainage channel at the aft end of the boat along the bottom exterior of the lazarette. The cracks are on both sides of the scupper hole. They may be the result of a prior freezing event. On the inside of the lazarette the bulkhead seems solid. >>>>> Visible from inside the lazarette below the bulkhead is a slightly recessed parallel secondary wall, which continues to the bottom of the hull. It is positioned near where the scupper plumbing comes through the lazarette. The aft end of the cockpit tub floor (my term) is above that thin secondary wall. There appears to be flotation material on the other side of the wall. The fiberglass fabric making up that secondary wall is deteriorated and torn. >>>>> I?m wondering how common these two conditions are, how serious are they, and what is the best way to repair them? Are the repairs something a versatile owner with no prior fiberglass experience can properly accomplish or are they best left to a pro? Qualified marine fiberglass professionals, if any, are scant in these parts. I?m going to be selling her one of these days and want to ensure these two issues are properly remedied. >>>>> Any insight or suggestions for the good of the cause will be very much appreciated. 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