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Chris Geankoplis
Cockpit Drainage Channel - Cracking
2026-10-30; 22:14:55 EDT
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2004-04-05
Posts: 2060
Oh, something shiny! Sent from my iPhoneSee the original archive post
> On Oct 30, 2026, at 6:47 PM, Todd Tavares <tavares0947 at gmail.com> wrote: > > How did we go from cracking gel coat to turtled sailboats? > > Todd T > >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2026, 9:31 PM Chris Geankoplis <chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hahaha, >> Yeah it was pretty funny, in retrospect. Yeah a hurricane was tracking >> offshore of the Delmarva but wasn’t a threat. David came down from >> Connecticut with a date and had arranged to borrow the boat. I suggested >> Poplar Island and the “pot” to anchor, no fetch and good holding. My bad. >> Seems a couple of heavy cells were spawned and a tornado produced. It drove >> a big motor cruiser probably 20’ high under the 22’ high Knapp Narrows >> bridge. Quite a site. >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 28, 2026, at 10:59 AM, Graham Stewart <graham at debgraham.ca> >> wrote: >>> >>> I wonder whether he thought this story is as funny as I do. >>> >>>> On 2026-10-28 11:40 a.m., Chris Geankoplis wrote: >>>> Yes it was a tornado. A family friend borrowed the boat for a romantic >> evening. Didn’t work out so well. He learned not to cook fondue in the nude >> when a boat is capsizing. A very teachable moment. >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>>> On Oct 28, 2026, at 9:16 AM, Graham Stewart<graham at debgraham.ca> >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The wind must have been incredible. >>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 27, 2026, at 10:11 AM, Lowe, Rob<rlowe at vt.edu> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> That is a crazy story which Chris has retold over the years. Only >> time I've heard of a Rhodes turtling. >>>>>> >>>>>> Rob >>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list<rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf of >> Ric Stott<ric at stottarchitecture.com> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2026 12:12 AM >>>>>> To: The Rhodes Email List<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Drainage Channel - Cracking >>>>>> >>>>>> That’s a crazy story Chris. Did you get the mast out too ? >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 26, 2026, at 2:09 PM, Chris Geankoplis< >> chrisgeankoplis at gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> I had my first brand new (1976) Rhodes 22 for two years until a >> tornado hit the boat while anchored in the “pot” at poPlar Island on the >> Chesapeake. According to witnesses, the boat was knocked down and the mast >> hit the shallow mud bottom and the boat was slowly “pole vaulted up and >> the mast pushed all the way down into the mud. The next day we returned to >> the turtled boat and undid the back stays, forstay and remaining side >> stays. With a shove the boat righted itself. We climbed in and using a >> couple of 5 gallon buckets, had it bailed out pretty quickly. No structural >> damage, the boat floated evenly and after bailing towed it over to Knapp >> Narrows. I can say with certainty the foam flotation works. >>>>>>> Chris Geankoplis >>>>>>> ‘76 Moonspinner ( at that time) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Oct 26, 2026, at 11:41 AM, Weiss, Robert L via Rhodes22-list< >> rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> wrote: >>>>>>>> I'm pretty sure the boat is unsinkable. As for a while, Stan had a >> photo online of one completely full of water and still not sunk. (Only Stan >> would do that.) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bob >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dr. Robert L Weiss Jr. >>>>>>>> Director of Music >>>>>>>> First United Methodist Carbondale, IL >>>>>>>> Professor Emeritus, SIUC >>>>>>>> S/V Beach Spring >>>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>>> From: Rhodes22-list<rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org> on behalf >> of Graham Stewart<graham at debgraham.ca> >>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2026 11:38 AM >>>>>>>> To: The Rhodes Email List<rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cockpit Drainage Channel - Cracking >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [EXTERNAL EMAIL ALERT]: Verify sender before opening links or >> attachments. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On my boat the lazerette bulkhead is sealed off but the bulkhead >> under the companion way has what I have always thought was a drain hole. As >> water intrusion below the sole is always possible, if not inevitable, it >> makes sense to me that it is there. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The purpose of the foam, as I understand it, was to give the boat >> buoyancy should it be swamped so it was “unsinkable “. I have not heard of >> a case where that was actually tested. >>>>>>>> Personally, I would grind out the crack in the lazerette and >> reglass it - especially if your boat is subject to freezing in the winter. >>>>>>>> I would look for cracks or holes in the cabin sole where water >> might get in and fix them. >>>>>>>> If there is a drain hole below the companion way, I would make sure >> it isn’t blocked and then use a tube connected to a shop vac to blow air >> into the cavity for 12 hours or so to dry out the cavity. If the is no >> drain hole I would be tempted to make one. You don’t want water to get >> trapped there. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If the cabin sole is very soft, you might cut it out to remove the >> old foam and replace it. That is not an impossible job but, personally, I >> would not do it unless the sole is so soft it was cracking. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not having full flotation makes the Rhodes 22 more like every >> other boat out there. Repairing fibreglass is a pita for sure but not >> particularly difficult. I would be very reluctant to assume the boat is a >> write off if it is otherwise ok. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Graham >>>>>>>> Agile, 1976 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Oct 26, 2026, at 2:10 AM, ROGER PIHLAJA<roger_pihlaja at msn.com> >> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi Otto, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There is floatation foam under the cockpit. The foam compartment >> is separated from the lazerette by the bulkhead you are asking about. If >> you check in the cabin, you will find a similar bulkhead at the aft end of >> the cabin back up under the step. If these 2 bulkheads are compromised, it >> is possible for bilge water to move from the cabin bilge to the lazerette >> and vice versa. If your cockpit/lazerette bulkhead shows damage; then, it >> is likely your cockpit/cabin bulkhead is damaged as well. If you have >> water infiltration into the under cockpit foam, this would be very >> serious. It’s probably not a DIY repair job. Does your cockpit sole feel >> “punky” or does it oil can? It should feel as rigid as a concrete >> sidewalk. You should have the boat surveyed. This may cost more to repair >> than the boat is worth. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Roger Pihlaja >>>>>>>>> S/V Dynamic Equilibrium >>>>>>>>> Sanford, MI 1978 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 25, 2026, at 6:09 PM, Otto Ohngren<ohngreno at gmail.com> >> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Hello from Oregon, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> My Rhodes 22 was manufactured in 1992 and factory refurbished in >> 2012. It is sailed on the Columbia River near Hermiston. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cracking has developed in the cockpit drainage channel at the aft >> end of the boat along the bottom exterior of the lazarette. The cracks are >> on both sides of the scupper hole. They may be the result of a prior >> freezing event. On the inside of the lazarette the bulkhead seems solid. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Visible from inside the lazarette below the bulkhead is a >> slightly recessed parallel secondary wall, which continues to the bottom of >> the hull. It is positioned near where the scupper plumbing comes through >> the lazarette. The aft end of the cockpit tub floor (my term) is above that >> thin secondary wall. There appears to be flotation material on the other >> side of the wall. The fiberglass fabric making up that secondary wall is >> deteriorated and torn. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I’m wondering how common these two conditions are, how serious >> are they, and what is the best way to repair them? Are the repairs >> something a versatile owner with no prior fiberglass experience can >> properly accomplish or are they best left to a pro? Qualified marine >> fiberglass professionals, if any, are scant in these parts. I’m going to be >> selling her one of these days and want to ensure these two issues are >> properly remedied. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Any insight or suggestions for the good of the cause will be very >> much appreciated. 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